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I wear gloves only for moving materials around, like lumber. I know this has been belabored enough, but those who say that wearing gloves is a risk are 100% correct, and there is no glove that one can wear around a power tool that makes it safer for the user or not inhibit some of the natural ability of your sense of touch.

None.

And you can take that to the bank, or your hand to the ER.

Your choice...

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Don if you've never worn a form fitting glove then sir you know not of which you speak. That is a reality. You can take it to the bank. I know this is not a popular position. But I've been using them for thirty years. Maybe they're not for everybody. But not knowing for absolute certainty what your speaking of leaves everything you say up to question as to the validity of your words. What was so seventy years ago is not so today. Be sensible in all things. Will save you that trip to the ER. To follow your thinking no-one who goes bare handed has never cut off a part of their hand. The premise is ridiculous as belaboring this point any further. If you have not done it. Then you are ignorant on the subject. Thank you very much.


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HTTPS://www.osha.gov/doc/... This is OSHA saying gloves and safety shoes should be worn when operating electric power tools. Just saying guys. I know where your coming from. Been there done that. 30 yrs ago I became aware of more modern things. That are in fact safe around power tools. Testes were made where gloves were placed on a stick and stuck into a spinning blade. Cut a hole in them but did not yank into the blade. That was one guys test. OSHA says differently though.


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Lonnie, it's fine if you want to wear gloves, it's fine if I don't. I've been through several OSHA inspections and they've never said anything about using gloves on our equipment at the shop, not once. I am taking machining classes at community college right now and they are expressly forbidden. I'm not going to wear gloves when I work and you can't make me!!!

No intention of doing so just making you aware of what OSHA says on the subject. John you have the right to do anything you want. Not trying to convince anyone of anything. I'm just saying that in today's day and age things are different then when these definite no-no's were first established. I was a carpenter and the old guys at the time used hand saws because the electrics had yet to be invented. When they came about the only gloves at the time were unsafe so it became a rule. Things change is all I'm saying.


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I'm still at loss concerning gloves - hauling plywood, sometimes, but in a shop????

Maybe we should let this lie for now.

Ed

Lonnie, I am afraid you are alone on your argument to wear gloves while working with machinery. It may be your theory but common sense says otherwise.

I know FIRST hand that wearing gloves and machinery do not play together at all. A number of years ago I was helping a friend on his truck. It was a pumper truck that sprayed water. The pump was run off of a PTO which was under the console of this truck(it was like a semi truck). His mechanic had worked on the truck the night before and my friend didn't know that he had not latched the door to the inspection plate. I jumped up into the truck and the inspection plate had jiggled loose and the door was open, my hand went into the hole and the PTO grabbed my glove and sucked my hand around the PTO. And Yes I was wearing skin tight drivers gloves. I just happen to wear those gloves because it was mid fall and a bit chilly out. I have no recollection of how I did it but I managed to pull my hand free but not after it broke 1 finger, 2 bones in my hand and 2 bones in my wrist not to say my hand was beat to hell and back. I was just plane lucky I didn't loose my whole hand.

So I can tell you from experience that wearing gloves is a very bad thing around machinery and whirly things... Even skin tight ones.

I can guarantee that had I not been wearing gloves I would have probably only come out of it with a few cuts and bruises but would not have broken all those bones in my hand. BTW, the PTO was only about an inch in diameter but didn't hesitate to rip that glove right off of my hand and wrap it around the PTO. I actually saved the glove and had it for a number of years hanging in my shop right where I could see it. I wish I still had it because I would take a picture of it to show you it was very similar to the gloves you wear.

You keep trying to make the argument that it is recommended by anyone who is into safety but I am having a very hard time buying that. If you think it is safe and you are confident that you will never have an accident then by all means keep wearing them, you have been lucky all these years there is no reason to believe you luck will change. It isn't really about skill or knowing what you are doing... That is why they are called accidents, and they happen to even the most skilled people when they least expect it.

So... Take it from a first hand experience... Gloves + Machinery = Bad News

From all the responses you have gotten, I don't think you are convincing anyone but yourself otherwise. I was hesitant to even post a response because I am a bit embarrassed to even admit that it happened to me but I think it serves the point well.

Bob

Lonnie

Got to thinking about the OSHA reference you supplied. I did find a short reference to gloves and power equipment in the context of a construction site - circular saws, grinders, hydraulic equipment, etc. So I dug a little further and searched "protective clothing woodworking" and came up with

https://www.osha.gov/Publications/woodw ... a3157.html

dated 1999. Here is what they say about gloves - this is a cut-and-paste from about 1/2 way through this very long publication:

"Protective gloves are the primary means available for direct hand protection. Extra-long gauntlets or sleeves attached to the gloves can extend protection up the arm. However, the appropriateness of glove use in the woodworking workplace should be carefully reviewed on a task-by-task basis. Gloves should not be worn when operating woodworking equipment due to the potential for getting caught in moving parts."

Be careful what you wish for.

Ed

Bob sorry you got injured. Ed I'm not wishing for anything. Perhaps someone who would stick their hand into that PTO would be less injured if they weren't wearing gloves. I'm not about to find out. The only thing I'm saying is that things have changed over the years. What's safe for one person may not be for another. If you stick your hand into a spot it shouldn't be your going to get hurt gloves or no gloves. Mine do not have thingies hanging from then to get caught. You saw the fellow in the Martin video. Cuts those necks 8 hrs a day maybe somebody should tell him he's acting in a dangerous manner. It's the hands inside the gloves that mean whether it's safe or not. I don't buy into the fact that nobody not wearing gloves has never been injured by an electrical tool. I'll be willing to bet that many many more ungloved hands have been injured then gloved hands. Why? Because it's been known that gloves are dangerous around power tools. Every body knows that. Big floppy gloves. But the kind I wear are not so. Driving gloves have no fingers in them this destroying the integrity of the glove and leaving a place for something to latch onto. I'm not proposing some one else do it. I just know what works for me. This thread is about what frightens you. Well operating electrical tools with or without gloves don't frighten me. I approach it like I would a rattle snake. Very carefully. I'm not going to say use gloves. I really don't care. I know what works for me. This is still America. You may think it's foolish to wear gloves. My wisdom tells me that a glove is an inanimate object. It's the hand inside that makes the mistake. To be honest I'd feel perfectly safe running my power saws wearing a tuxedo Bow Tie and white gloves. It's what you do inside that costume that determines the outcome.


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Don't let fear or common sense stop you from trying to build something

Lonnie, I am just glad I wasn't hurt to the point it effected me for life. I feel I was a very lucky guy. I didn't purposely stick my hand in the PTO, I thought I was leaning on the console and my hand slipped. That is exactly how accidents happen, no one cuts a finger off on a table saw on purpose. A split second distraction is all it takes



You are very correct, it is still America and you are free to do as you please. Maybe it should be left at that. It seems you continue to defend your position which brings on more comments so this glove issue keeps coming back.

I don't personally care if you do wear gloves or as you say a "tuxedo Bow Tie and white gloves" but I would like to get a picture of that... That would be worth framing.

This issue is like asking what food you like. Everyone has their own favorite and has learned to appreciate it more over the years. No one will convince a broccoli hater to love it or the other way around. So sometimes it is best to just state an opinion and let other state theirs. I am sure no one will convince you to stop wearing gloves and you won't convince anyone to wear them.

Cheers,
Bob

Wow,, I think that is what I was trying to say... I just don't know how to do it in so few words.

Cheers,
Bob

Wow, that was not polite. Especially from a new member.

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poor form for a newbie. arrogant, assumptive, -typical.

i suggest mr alvarado that you go have your chakra's balanced and learn some humility.

I sincerely hope Mr. Alvarado continues to post. His builds are fantastic.
I build electrics because I do not yet have the skills to attempt an acoustic.
I enjoy seeing the acoustic builds and learn a lot from the forum that I can apply to electrics.

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OK I just have to ask. Do you wear them when you play guitar to keep the callouses at bay?

I have worn them while playing my fiddle. My brother wore his while playing his guitar. I'm sad to say since I've been building my finger callouses have gone somewhere else. It's not that big of a deal. The gloves are in no way a hindrance to the mobility of your fingers.
If you are a player,as I figure most on here are,you'll know that not playing for any length of time will cause your callouses to go away. I know people don't understand my viewpoint on this subject. That's because they've never tried these gloves. What more do I need to to say? Ignorance is . I didn't invent that saying. Often wondered what it meant and to whom it pertained. Now I know:0)


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Ignorance is (ecstatic emoticon). I didn't invent that saying. Often wondered what it meant and to whom it pertained. Now I know:0)


I am ignorant of how to pump out a septic tank - in fact you might say I am even ecstatic that I don't know how to do that. So I guess it pertains to me.

How long can we keep this going - let's try for a record

Wear gloves - 1
Don't wear gloves - everybody else

Ed

I've heard enough about gloves. We all know where everyone stands...


A thing that freaks me out:
I was cutting things a bit close on my thickness sander earlier and got pretty freaked out as an image flashed before my eyes of one of my fingers bent backwards... I switch the machine off. Then ten minutes later I nearly tore my thumbnail off whilst cutting a long piece of tape on the floor and bashing it into my boot! Nails coming off freak me out.

Well as I said ignorance is . Glad you find comfort in it. Sorry about your septic tank. Could give a an outlook on life


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you ask to let it drop but ya keep bringing it back up. I had let it drop. Just responding. But had to post this.


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Look what happened to Michael Jackson. And he wore only one glove.

Alex

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I think this thread has about run its course..

Can we at least agree on that?

Bob