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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 5:15 pm 
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Apparently Titebond has stopped shipping to Canada. Those of you that know, what is an equivalent glue? Is LePage Pro carpenters fine? What about Gorilla products?


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 6:53 pm 
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Hi Coach, I have not heard this or seen this happening. Was available last week.
Where does his info come from.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 7:16 pm 
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Was going to pick some up at the hardware store today. Was none in stock. Owner told me Titebond informed him no more of their products are being shipped to Canada due to the higher cost of the bilingual labelling requirements.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 8:26 pm 
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I had the bilingual label issue with Tru-oil, only available in Canada in very small bottles.
Hope it doesn't turn out to be true, I use 4 or 5 different Franklin/ titebond products on a daily basis.

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I would think any yellow aliphatic resin glue would work.

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http://www.titebond.com/where_to_buy/Ot ... tries.aspx

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 9:03 am 
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In the latest BusyBee Tools flier, they have Titebond Original on sale in the 16oz, quart, and gallon sizes.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 9:33 am 
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Seen it twice today... HD and BusyBee
Hard to believe they would throw away a huge market/money just for a label.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 8:11 pm 
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I'll be stocking up if I can find some. I talked to the owner of the hardware store, he was adamant. He orders the stuff from the manufacturer, and I presume he knows what he's talking about.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 11:25 am 
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Lots around where I am.
But, more to the point of the question, I know people who swear by Lepage's yellow wood glue.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 11:36 am 
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This old fart went to elementary school,in MTL PQ. in the 50/s I remember using lepages glue it was in a glass bottle with a pink rubber slot to squeeze out the glue .It must have been fish or animal glue , it smelled funky, we /d get it all over our fingers and hands.I would stick with lepages, lee valley also has an excellent glue for luthiery/cabinetmaking which I started using in 1987 202gf a dark brown glue . works very well. bliss


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You guys get great fish glue out of Lee Valley in Canada. You can't stock up on Titebond because it goes bad. But fish glue, not an issue. That said I'd be amazed if it was not available - commonly used. Other brands sell equivalents, et cetera.

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The LMI PVA glue costs more than Titebond, but in my opinion it is better. It seems to dry harder and is thus more resistant to creep. Yes, they'd have to ship it over the border. I would be wary of any of the PVA's until you do some experimenting to make sure it won't creep when things get warm. If it creeps in the heat, it will likely creep more slowly when it's just under pressure in the cold.


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bobgramann wrote:
. I would be wary of any of the PVA's until you do some experimenting to make sure it won't creep when things get warm. If it creeps in the heat, it will likely creep more slowly when it's just under pressure in the cold.


I have been puzzled by this "creep" issue with PVA glue for many years. I've used Titebond and before Titebond other white PVA glues for a good 50 years and never experienced any kind of creep. We have guitars all the way from Yemen to Hong Kong and Singapore with no "creep" issues.


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Coach71 wrote:
Was going to pick some up at the hardware store today. Was none in stock. Owner told me Titebond informed him no more of their products are being shipped to Canada due to the higher cost of the bilingual labelling requirements.


Argh. The absolute stupidity that destroys business. Enuff said. So sorry about this. I'll bet we can ship you some. Betting you won't have any trouble with the labels.


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jshelton wrote:

I have been puzzled by this "creep" issue with PVA glue for many years. I've used Titebond and before Titebond other white PVA glues for a good 50 years and never experienced any kind of creep. We have guitars all the way from Yemen to Hong Kong and Singapore with no "creep" issues.


I had the pleasure of getting one of my instruments back for a minor repair 10 years after the sale. The joint between the heel and the neck plank had a discernible edge when I felt along it. I know it was flush when I built it. From that point on, I stopped using Titebond for a joint under tension. I tried the Titebond Extend since it was rumored to creep less. I don't have any results yet othose guitars. Then, LMI got their new glue. For that joint, the LMI glue is what I use now.

The first few guitars I built, I used Titebond for the joint between the fingerboard and the neck. Ebony moves a lot with the weather. In the right weather, that joint was easily felt. After experimenting with epoxy, I went to hot hot glue for that joint--not one with HHG has produced an edge.


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can you get the Elmer's carpenter's glue?
It's the best!

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:51 pm 
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Mike Collins wrote:
can you get the Elmer's carpenter's glue?
It's the best!

Mike

I would second that. All yellow wood glues are definitely NOT created equal. Elmer's Carpenters Wood Glue dries hard and crystaline-like, not a bit of rubbery-ness. I would not use any other yellow glue. Lower cost than Tite-bond, too.

Hope this does not start a glue war :)

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:08 pm 
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I contacted titebond and received a reply stating this is not true.

That said, I really like this product and is my daily go-to glue.

http://www.twinmaple.com/marketing/catalog.php?cat=6

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Bri wrote:
I contacted titebond and received a reply stating this is not true.

That said, I really like this product and is my daily go-to glue.

http://www.twinmaple.com/marketing/catalog.php?cat=6

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Do they do any retail sales, or just wholesale, Brian? I've been using LV 202GF glue for cabinetry for 20+ years with no problems, but only use 2-3 litres a year.

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Brian . can you give us a report on how bondrite works, and which applications you are using it for .? thanks


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 10:07 pm 
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Alex, I get it from my local hardwood supplier.
They should be able to provide a retailer near you.

Ernie, I think the grade school glue was mucilage, had an odd flavor if I remember.
The bondrite works similar to most water based glues, clamping time, clean-up being normal, may have a shorter working time but not much. Strength is very good.
Where it excels is in sanding and invisibility. Dries to color like mdf and accepts stain better than most glues.

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Yup, brian , correct it was mucilage , I never tried tasting it, but remember using it to glue our craft paper projects.Thanks for the update. about bondrite .I will check for a usa supplier.Very few woodworking suppliers in the KC metroplex.


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If you can get it, I like the Titebond Extend. It dries harder than both Titebond original as well as Elmers Carpenters glue. I did a glass test with all three, using a gauged squeegee on a piece of float glass. The extend was the hardest of the three, followed by the Elmers. Original Titebond was the softest.


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After experimenting with epoxy, I went to hot hot glue for that joint--not one with HHG has produced an edge.


I assume you meant hot hide glue, not hot hot glue.

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