Official Luthiers Forum!

Owned and operated by Lance Kragenbrink
It is currently Wed Apr 24, 2024 1:31 pm


All times are UTC - 5 hours


Forum rules


Be nice, no cussin and enjoy!




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 29 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2
Author Message
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:38 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:56 am
Posts: 1271

Clamp time for fish glue varies greatly, from what I can tell. I tested some stressed joints (2 pieces of 1/4" x 1/4" spruce bent into my 15' radius form) and there is absolutely no creep several years later after as little as 15 minutes clamp time. Warm temp, 45% humidity.


The 12 hours might be true for gluing to oily or non-porous wood. But spruce on spruce is quick. It's easy to do a few tests.


_________________
http://www.chassonguitars.com


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:45 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:05 am
Posts: 9191
Location: United States
First name: Waddy
Last Name: Thomson
City: Charlotte
State: NC
Focus: Build
Status: Semi-pro

[QUOTE=DP LaPlante]Though fish glue was used and heartily recommended at the Romanillos course, Jose' did not prefer it over Titebond for joining spruce. He felt that the glue line was more visible with fish glue and less so with Titebond.[/QUOTE]

Dave, didn't they use Fish Glue for gluing Dentillones at the Romanillos course?  And, wasn't that done by hand, holding them in place for, say a count of 20, then move on to the next one.  Also, isn't that joint under a bit of stress due to the 90* angle of top to rib along the edge of the lower bout, when the rest is scooped out?

_________________
Waddy

Photobucket Build Album Library

Sound Clips of most of my guitars


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:08 pm 
Offline
Cocobolo
Cocobolo

Joined: Sat Aug 25, 2007 12:59 pm
Posts: 241

Waddy,


Yes, we used the fish glue for gluing the glue blocks (peonies or dentellones <"Teeth"> if you prefer) at the top to side join. I brought along a little pick-like tool that I use to spear these and hold them in place as you describe.


As for the joint angle I gave the ones at the lower bout a swipe or two on a sanding plate to increase the angle a bit to accomodate the doming of the top.


 


 


 



Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 5:43 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa

Joined: Mon Jul 02, 2007 1:22 pm
Posts: 766
-


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 29 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 119 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
cron
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
phpBB customization services by 2by2host.com