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Author:  ncovey [ Tue Oct 21, 2008 11:21 am ]
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I thought I'd show a picture of this one, see what you think about the style.
Author:  JRE Productions [ Tue Oct 21, 2008 11:34 am ]
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Howdy!

Can we get some more details? I like it, but would like to understand the target audiance a little better before commenting on the design.

Thanks!
Author:  Michael Dale Payne [ Tue Oct 21, 2008 11:38 am ]
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I think it is very interesting [:Y:]

On the critical side the waist return into the upper bout on the treble side is so shallow I would think the guitar would want to move around on you a bit while playing in a seated position. but that is not a huge thing. I am not real fond of the peghead shape or the bridge shape for this body style but that again is an eye of the beholder type thing.

The peghead sees weighty in respect to this style a and the bridge seems a tad out of scale in its length to width and a bit to rectangular in shape.

Execution looks splendid.
[:Y:]
Author:  ncovey [ Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:01 pm ]
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Thanks guys, this one is another of my rather unique styles that really is a sort of specialty instrument. The cut away is shallow, but the guitar sits and plays very comfortably as it is small and short scaled, tuned high, anywhere from "G" to "D"
(3rd to 10th fret of standard guitar) depending on the specs, they are very bright and fill a gap of sorts for guitar playing in that they are focused on higher registers, 6,8 and 12 string in unison courses (8-12)
I have about as much fun building them as I do playing, but they're not for everyone, limited in the bass end and strung with custom string sets , .008" to .042". The biggest problem is the case availability,
I have only found a couple portugese guitar cases that fit ok, and custom cases can be spendy. This one is all bubinga, ebony and maple. the head is rather odd and a bit bug-like, but I wanted it to be that way.
Hey, thanks for looking at it.
Author:  John Mayes [ Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:22 pm ]
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the body looks ok to me. Not much waist so I don't know how it would sit, but the headstock to me looks out of place.
Author:  peterm [ Tue Oct 21, 2008 1:17 pm ]
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Nehemiah, without being too critical but since you asked...I don't particularly like it. I think that wood combo looks nice but the shape is a bit weird. I think the waist, narrow upper bout and headstock are not doing it a favor.
Author:  JRE Productions [ Tue Oct 21, 2008 1:21 pm ]
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Very cool. So its a high-strung (nashville or standard) guitar. I think it would be an excellent tool in the studio! Playing chord inversions to phat'n up the mix on that would be excellent.

Need someone to demo one? ;)

Joe
Author:  JRE Productions [ Tue Oct 21, 2008 1:22 pm ]
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PS: The F holes seem forward. Do you get enough sound out of them in that location? How does it compare to an F hole mandolin or mandocello?
Author:  ncovey [ Tue Oct 21, 2008 1:36 pm ]
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...I have a tendency to design some instruments to look organic, or Hungarian/eclectic style, with a gypsy flair?? I actually designed these based on sitting to play, so they are easy to hold and rest rather comfortably on the leg, not to say they don't look somewhat strange, but the tone is really different and exciting to hear. sharp trebles and long sustain, they actually have a harp like resonance. The closest thing I could compare them to is Joe Veilettes-Gryphon, if you've ever heard one of those. I don't want to come off as self-promoting, just wanted to see what you thought about the looks and style. One of my own. All of them have sound ports too.
Author:  ncovey [ Tue Oct 21, 2008 1:54 pm ]
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Good to hear the comments guys, I appreciate them.

You'd actually be very surprised at the volume of sound they produce, the small forward set "F" holes, or 2-1/2" sound hole combined with a sound port , they have no trouble being heard (sometimes too much) along side a couple guitars. The reason I am showing these is really because the first one I made, I thought it wouldn't project, but aside from the aesthetics that have been pointed out, the design, with the tail-piece and rather stiff top in this short scale works (18-1/2" to 20"), I spend a lot of time trying to free up certain resonances, and experimenting with unique designs, especially using tail-pieces.
As soon as I get another one done , I'd like to send it out to any builder that's interested in trying it. Just for fun. Maybe point out some things and supply a little feedback. It's still a work in progress
Author:  Hesh [ Tue Oct 21, 2008 1:55 pm ]
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I like it Nehemiah my friend. It's not a style or shape that I would personally like to play or own but I am weird as hell so don't let that bother ya.

It's nice to see some folks doing different things - good job! [:Y:] [clap] [clap] [clap] [clap] [clap] [clap]
Author:  martinedwards [ Tue Oct 21, 2008 4:07 pm ]
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I'm a huge fan of out of the box thinking in instrument design, so if it does what you want it to, it's A1!!
Author:  ncovey [ Wed Oct 22, 2008 12:38 pm ]
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Based on the comments here, I suppose I should change some things aesthetically, but I like the comment from Filippo "late eigtheen hundreds early nineteen hundreds". I'll show the next one with some minor tweaking and a bit more focus on drawing it together. Maple? I have a good bit of it! bearclaw top
...12 string, rickenbacher style head.
Thanks everyone....
Author:  Michael Dale Payne [ Wed Oct 22, 2008 12:45 pm ]
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ncovey wrote:
Based on the comments here, I suppose I should change some things aesthetically, but I like the comment from Filippo "late eigtheen hundreds early nineteen hundreds". I'll show the next one with some minor tweaking and a bit more focus on drawing it together. Maple? I have a good bit of it! bearclaw top
...12 string, rickenbacher style head.
Thanks everyone....


Aestherically the 12 string looks thought out and designed. All the eliments work well togather. I like it a lot. The bridge and peghead on the 6 sting just does not look like they were designed to flow with the rest of the body.
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