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| Author: | James A. [ Fri Nov 20, 2009 3:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | I'm buying a veritas. Which one should it be????? |
I am working on my first guitar from scratch. I have access to a thicknessing sander planer, but I want a good all around planer for jointing primarily, but perhaps would use it for a little thicknessing as well. I have decided on Veritas planers, I can only afford one, which one should it be? Here are the options that I am aware of. #5-1/4W Bench Plane Low-Angle Jack Plane #6 Fore Plane #4-1/2 Smoothing Plane Low-Angle Smooth Plane This is the page I'm looking at: http://www.leevalley.com/wood/Search.as ... ay=i#start ANy help would be very much appreciated. By the way, in my first guitar project, I am building an OM with sitka top and amazon rosewood back and sides. I just finished building all of the molds and jigs I think I will need. I am having a blast even just building the mold, can't wait to start the soundboard!. Thanks for you help. James |
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| Author: | Michael.N. [ Fri Nov 20, 2009 3:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I'm buying a veritas. Which one should it be????? |
The 5 1/4 or the low angle jack. Those are the 'all rounders' of the bunch. My longest plane is a Stanley 5 1/2 and all my jointing is done with that plane. A No. 6 may be better suited to jointing but it's hardly a good choice for thicknessing. |
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| Author: | Edward Taylor [ Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I'm buying a veritas. Which one should it be????? |
I just got two Veritas planes, they are excellent quality. I got the Low-angle smooth plane for jointing and thicknessing with an extra toothed blade, seems to be a good plane so far but have not used it that much yet. |
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| Author: | WaddyThomson [ Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I'm buying a veritas. Which one should it be????? |
I just bought one of the low angle jacks, and it is really nice. Blade ships separately, and it's ready, but a light touch up might be in order, but it's sharp. Mostly I just polished it up. The planes are nicely designed, and I really like the set screw blade guide that keeps the blade centered. |
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| Author: | joekelly9692 [ Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I'm buying a veritas. Which one should it be????? |
i got the low angle jack and the low angle block with the addable totes i also got 3 blades for each plane to save me from re grindinag all the time............outstanding tools but for shooting joints i still prefer my fettled stanley 5 1/2 |
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| Author: | Alexandru Marian [ Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I'm buying a veritas. Which one should it be????? |
I have the low angle and I really love it. I use it for both thinning and jointing plates. It is however a bit award for smoothing, sometimes, because of the size. If you can afford, get their new low angle smoother too, it works great from what I read. Blades can be interchanged with the jack. If you don't get the smoother too, I advice getting a York pitch blade for difficult grain. Smoother comes with one by default and you can swap. |
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| Author: | TonyKarol [ Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I'm buying a veritas. Which one should it be????? |
I have the low angle block, smoother and jack .. if I could only have one, it woudl be the smoother .... then the block, then jack .. but alas, I dont have to make that decision, I like them all  I also have reground the blades in them all to 45 degrees .... |
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| Author: | Edzard [ Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I'm buying a veritas. Which one should it be????? |
The Scraping Plane from Veritas is also very usefull for backs and sides. Especially if you don't want/have a sanding machine. http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx ... 1182,48945 Best Regards, Edzard |
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| Author: | James A. [ Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I'm buying a veritas. Which one should it be????? |
Wow, thanks everyone for the input. This site is amazing. James |
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| Author: | James A. [ Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I'm buying a veritas. Which one should it be????? |
One more thing, someone mentioned that they would first choose the smoother. Will the smoother be adequate for jointing, thinning, and smoothing??? |
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| Author: | TonyKarol [ Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I'm buying a veritas. Which one should it be????? |
oddly enough .. I get better results with the smoother on the shooting board .... probably because it gets used and sharpened more often ... |
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| Author: | windsurfer [ Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I'm buying a veritas. Which one should it be????? |
My first choice would be my most used plare, the low angle block plane. Second choice is the meduim shoulder plane -great for cleaning up edges and excellent on it's side for shooting thin plates. If you are ordering from Lee Valley and use 1/4" nut slots, be sure to order the mini shoulder plane. I just got one and it is a little hard to hold on to, but it is the perfect tool for cleaning up and squaring nut slots. my LN 5 1/4 just sits on the shelf, unused. -jd |
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| Author: | douglas ingram [ Sat Nov 21, 2009 1:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I'm buying a veritas. Which one should it be????? |
Any thoughts on why go with bevel up vs. bevel down? I frequently look at the LV planes and am wracked with indecision, they're all so nice, and there are so many divergent opinions... |
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| Author: | joekelly9692 [ Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I'm buying a veritas. Which one should it be????? |
hi douglas ....for years i used a stanley 5 bench plane which has a 45 degree frog,,,,,,,,which is no good for wild wood......so i used back bevels and got results........but i hate putting back bevels as it just seems a pain and changing and buying a steeper frog seemed a pain as well.......so i got the veritas low angle jack and all three blades and it is just pure versatility i can go from 37 degrees for end grain to 62 degrees in under a minute........so the low angle bevel up planes are perfect for guitar makers....joe |
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| Author: | joekelly9692 [ Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I'm buying a veritas. Which one should it be????? |
hi todd maybe you can answer this one.......why does a bevel down plane with a 45 degree frog and a back bevel to make it middle pitch leave a far smoother polished surface...than a bevel up plane with the asme cutting angles??????? also i do also think bevel up planes are far better performance wise but the vesitility of the bujp is great joe |
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| Author: | JohnAbercrombie [ Sat Nov 21, 2009 7:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I'm buying a veritas. Which one should it be????? |
Todd Stock wrote: Also - if you have small hands and want to go with a LV block, look at the apron plane...not adjustable mouth, but it will be much handier than the larger block, and the mouth is tight enough for trimming work. For some reason, LV went with a wider, higher design on their adjustable mouth blocks than the standard 1-3/8" 60-1/2 design, resulting in a tool that is cumbersome for one-handed use for some folks. The apron plane is narrower than the standard LV block (close to the size of the Stanley 102), so smaller and better proportioned and a good bet for trimming work. As usual, Todd is 'right on' with this. My experience exactly- I have LV block, apron, and several 60½ planes. The apron plane is a very 'handy' tool. John |
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| Author: | windsurfer [ Sun Nov 22, 2009 12:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I'm buying a veritas. Which one should it be????? |
Todd Stock wrote: Quote: my LN 5 1/4 just sits on the shelf, unused. List it on Ebay - anything LN usually goes for more than the original purchase price. It is actually a very nice plane for working on furniture and my wife has a long list of projects that it would be great for. I just need to finish up a few more guitars before I get back to the furniture; yea just a few more guitars...I actually made some drawings and went to the local wood supplier last week to start on the maple and cherry bed I was supposed to be making -came back with some 8/4 QS hog  I find the 5 1/4 to be a bit big and heavy for working on guitars -jd |
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