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I too use the luthiertool jig....Not cheap but fantastically made and it makes slotted headstocks a breeze

While on the subject: I am aswell interested in getting one of those aluminum thingys from luthiertool.com, but as a not-native speaker of the english language I am confused by the options and different versions they offer. idunno

I am interested only in making steel string guitars with slotted headstocks. What do I need? The "Classical slot head fixture standard" together with a "Standard template set (for steel string)"? Would I need the "Classical drill bushing set" at all?
duh

Me so confused. gaah

You talking about that aluminum thingy? I want one. I really want one!!

Mike

I'm sort of envious on you guys. I just scribe mine with a marking gauge then carve with chisels and finish with rasps and files. It's a lot of work and I guess I just like to complicate my life

For the barrel holes I use the LMI guide with steel bushings.

Author:	Chris Ensor [ Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:06 am ]
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I am looking in to eventually making myself a classical guitar. I have never made a slotted headstock, though I think I understand the process. I would like to see your templates/jigs you use to cut the slots and drill the tuner holes. And if anyone knows of a cheaper alternative to the stewmac version of the drilling jig (http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Tuners/Tuner_installation_tools/Tuning_Machine_Drill_Jig_for_Slotted_Pegheads.html?actn=100101&xst=3&xsr=12203), that would be helpful as well. I think I remember how Sergei slots his headstocks, so I will try to make a fixture like he has. Sorry no pictures. But if you have any ideas of a good way to do this (I will be using a plunge router) I would appreciate your input. Thanks

Author:	letseatpaste [ Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:30 am ]
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Not cheaper than the Stewmac or LMI jigs by any means, but check out the headstock jig @ http://www.luthiertool.com/classical.html . One setup for drilling the tuner holes and for routing the slots. I probably should have tried it by hand before I bought this jig, but it is really nice and I don't regret buying it. It gets the tuner holes dead-on if you use 3-on-a-plate tuners. I got the combo set for classical and steel string style slots.

Author:	JJ Donohue [ Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:16 am ]
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Ditto on the Jonathan's recommendation. It's the BEST (and only) jig I have ever bought.

Author:	Mike OMelia [ Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:46 am ]
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Fun, huh? I built my first jig and quickly learned why the jigs you can buy are single sided. Fortunately, I practiced on scrap befor using on the peghead. Single sided, good. Flip over and use on other side. There is a very useful file you will need for sculpting the end of the slots where the strings exit. Dangit! I cannot remember the name of it, but if Todd chimes in, he can tell you. Strongly reccomend this!! Mike

Author:	WaddyThomson [ Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:51 am ]
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Forstner bit, and a low fence to keep even with edge of headstock. Clean out with files and sanding sticks. Very simple. Very cheap. Attachment: P1020856 (Large).JPG

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Author:	JohnAbercrombie [ Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:12 am ]
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Chris- You've taken Sergei's course (?) so you know his system. I found that it worked well recently when I dug out my notebook and made up a jig to do a classical headstock. I don't think you need a jig to drill the side tuner roller holes, if you are careful with your layout. Be sure to drill the tuner holes before slotting, as Sergei taught.. the pic shows the jig in place for trimming the outside of the headstock. The slotting was done later. I cleaned out most of the slots with a couple of forstener holes and the jigsaw, then a pattern bit (not plunged) to follow the template. BTW, I do know how to tie on the strings better than this! I was in a hurry to string up! Cheers John

Author:	Andy Zimmerman [ Thu Mar 25, 2010 12:28 pm ]
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I too use the luthiertool jig....Not cheap but fantastically made and it makes slotted headstocks a breeze

Author:	Mike OMelia [ Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:02 pm ]
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Andy Zimmerman wrote: I too use the luthiertool jig....Not cheap but fantastically made and it makes slotted headstocks a breeze You talking about that aluminum thingy? I want one. I really want one!! Mike

Author:	Christoph [ Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:16 pm ]
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While on the subject: I am aswell interested in getting one of those aluminum thingys from luthiertool.com, but as a not-native speaker of the english language I am confused by the options and different versions they offer. I am interested only in making steel string guitars with slotted headstocks. What do I need? The "Classical slot head fixture standard" together with a "Standard template set (for steel string)"? Would I need the "Classical drill bushing set" at all? Me so confued.

Author:	JohnAbercrombie [ Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:41 pm ]
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Christoph wrote: While on the subject: I am aswell interested in getting one of those aluminum thingys from luthiertool.com, but as a not-native speaker of the english language I am confused by the options and different versions they offer. I am interested only in making steel string guitars with slotted headstocks. What do I need? The "Classical slot head fixture standard" together with a "Standard template set (for steel string)"? Would I need the "Classical drill bushing set" at all? Me so confused. I'd suggest dropping an email to them- surely they won't make you buy something you don't need? chris@luthiertool.com Be sure you have the correct router adapter as well. (for example, the Bosch routers need an adapter plate to use the standard round bushings.) Cheers John

Author:	Jeff Highland [ Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:42 pm ]
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For drilling the roller holes, the Gilbert drilling block at $35 is good value http://www.specialtytuners.com/ look under tooling.

Author:	Dave Fifield [ Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:42 pm ]
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Christoph, for steel string slot head only, you would need this model from Chris at $249. Coincidentally, I just took delivery of a box of goodies from Chris yesterday, including the combo version of the slot head jig. Cheers, Dave F.

Author:	Christoph [ Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:49 pm ]
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John, Dave, Thanks a bunch.

Author:	Andy Zimmerman [ Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:20 pm ]
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Quote: You talking about that aluminum thingy? I want one. I really want one!! Mike yep

Author:	David LaPlante [ Fri Mar 26, 2010 6:46 am ]
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Here's mine, I made these templates well before anything was available commercially and had access to a milling machine at the time. This one is fastened with screws in the location of the future slots Attachment: WorkingupNeck 005.jpg Stew Mac drilling jig: Attachment: WorkingupNeck 006.jpg Template is fastened at the waste corners of the peghead and neck center line with short wood screws Attachment: WorkingupNeck 007.jpg Attachment: WorkingupNeck 008.jpg Attachment: WorkingupNeck 009.jpg Attachment: WorkingupNeck 010.jpg Attachment: WorkingupNeck 011.jpg

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Author:	woody b [ Fri Mar 26, 2010 6:00 am ]
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Like Waddy I use a forester bit and a fence on my drill press to rough out the holes and then finish with files and sandpaper. I do use this Stew Mac jig to drill the tuner holes. http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Tools/Special_tools_for:_Tuner_installation/Tuner_Drill_Jigs.html?tab=Pictures#details Drilling the tuner holes first eliminates blowout in the slots.

Author:	Alexandru Marian [ Fri Mar 26, 2010 7:34 am ]
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I'm sort of envious on you guys. I just scribe mine with a marking gauge then carve with chisels and finish with rasps and files. It's a lot of work and I guess I just like to complicate my life For the barrel holes I use the LMI guide with steel bushings.

Author:	jfmckenna [ Fri Mar 26, 2010 10:10 am ]
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Alexandru Marian wrote: I'm sort of envious on you guys. I just scribe mine with a marking gauge then carve with chisels and finish with rasps and files. It's a lot of work and I guess I just like to complicate my life For the barrel holes I use the LMI guide with steel bushings. I do the same and it's a lot of fun doing it that way. I think I may have the same LMI tool as well, I got it like 15 years ago and still works like a charm. It's just a simple machined AL block with bushings.