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Author:  SteveSmith [ Sun Jul 04, 2010 3:16 pm ]
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What is up with the bandsaw breakdowns lately? About 30 min ago I was resawing an ebony fingerboard to use as a headplate and the upper wheel bracket on my 14" Grizz broke. A big pop and everything jumped. Don't know yet, and don't care really, if it took out the blade but I still have all my fingers. Got a bit of an adrenalin rush which is something I try to avoid since I left the military. :?

I had been thinking about getting a Lennox blade for the 14" but now I think its time to upgrade the whole saw. The Grizz is 10 yrs old and I've been running an Iturra spring on it for about 4 yrs so I can' be too unhappy that the part let go. I think its just made of pot metal. The only other thing I've had to replace is the power switch.

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You can see I don't have a lot of space for a big saw. The bandsaw is sitting pretty much in the middle of what is going to be a small spray booth. I've been looking at the Rikon 14" deluxe but like what I hear about the 17" grizz with cast iron trunnion and wheels. Just wondering out loud if I could get a 17" saw to fit.

Not looking to start another "which bandsaw do I buy" thread, but really wanted to share (vent). I've got the whole rest of the day in the shop today and no bandsaw [headinwall]

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Author:  SteveSmith [ Sun Jul 04, 2010 3:36 pm ]
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I think our shops are about the same size. I'd have more room except I have a milling machine that takes up a whole corner. Good advice about comparing footprints. I have already printed out info on several saws and thought I might tape some cardboard or scrap to my 14" to get an idea of what a bigger saw might feel like in there. And, yes, I'm thankful there was no blood drawn. I use pushsticks too; usually two, one for sideways pressure on the fence and one to push the work through.
Author:  Chris aka Sniggly [ Sun Jul 04, 2010 3:49 pm ]
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Steve I had the same thing happen on my Griz'...but in all fairness I was pushing the saw to do things it just wasn't designed to do. Replaced it with parts from Grizzly and then sold the saw and upgraded. I use my bandsaw quite a bit so I went ahead and bought the Rikon 18". Got it when it was on sale for $999.00.

Go ahead and start looking. You won't regret it.

Chris
Author:  SteveSmith [ Sun Jul 04, 2010 3:53 pm ]
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Sounds like good advice and the upgrade is what I want to do anyway. duh The only bummer is I'm gonna have to let go of a pretty sweet Taylor 12-string and a nice American Strat to get the money.
Author:  Haans [ Mon Jul 05, 2010 5:26 am ]
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Hey! :)
Author:  SteveSmith [ Mon Jul 05, 2010 8:21 am ]
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Filippo Morelli wrote:
Steve look on the bright side - who the hell wants to restring 12 strings?! beehive

Filippo

Todd Stock wrote:
Could be worse...could be a slothead twelve string...


laughing6-hehe laughing6-hehe
Author:  Haans [ Mon Jul 05, 2010 8:24 am ]
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Hey! :) Hey! :)
Author:  Haans [ Mon Jul 05, 2010 8:55 am ]
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So you charge 'em for it... [:Y:]
Author:  Haans [ Mon Jul 05, 2010 9:08 am ]
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Ovation doesn't make a 12 string...
Author:  Haans [ Mon Jul 05, 2010 9:48 am ]
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Just like I said...
Here's a 12 string...

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Author:  Stuart Gort [ Mon Jul 05, 2010 9:52 am ]
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Haans wrote:
Ovation doesn't make a 12 string...


They even make a 12 string electric....or they once did. Glenn Campbell used to play one.
Author:  SteveSmith [ Mon Jul 05, 2010 10:54 am ]
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Stuart?
Author:  SteveSmith [ Mon Jul 05, 2010 1:01 pm ]
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oops_sign

Good thread to blow up since I was just venting anyway.
Author:  Haans [ Mon Jul 05, 2010 2:32 pm ]
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Filippo Morelli wrote:
Leo Kottke can play one. No one else can best as I know. Hence there should only be one 12 string in the world. Leo's. That would solve several things at once.

Filippo

(p.s. Sorry Stuart ... we way blew up your thread ...)


WOW!!! :shock:

Ah, :?:

WOW!!! :shock:
Author:  SteveSmith [ Mon Jul 05, 2010 4:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Broken Bandsaw Week?
Filippo Morelli wrote:
Steve,
If you've seen any of my past workshop threads, you know I have a small shop. Something like 12'x20'. Anyway I replaced the 14" Rikon with the 18". I had the same concern about space, in fact at first dismissed the upgrade out of hand. After I chased down the footprint numbers, turns out the increase in space was a couple inches in one direction.

Sooooo .... check your dimensions before you dismiss a "bigger" saw due to size.

Glad to hear you didn't get hurt. This is another reason why I use a 12" push stick and a 12" side stick with cork for grip. No point in being too close to the machinery ...

Filippo


Good advice and you're right, a bigger saw will fit - I'll need to do a bit of rearranging but I'm going to do that anyway. I like the Grizzly G0513X2 17" with cast iron trunnion and wheels. http://grizzly.com/products/17-Bandsaw-2HP-w-Cast-Iron-Trunnion/G0513X2

This saw is also available with a motor brake for an extra $155. Anyone have any experience with the motor brake on this one? I'd probably pay this much for a foot brake but just wondering if the motor brake is worth it.
Author:  SteveSmith [ Mon Jul 05, 2010 9:19 pm ]
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Filippo Morelli wrote:
Steve, I assume you've been following the other bandsaw thread (with about 100 posts?)

I think Chris V. has a 17" Grizz ... maybe he can comment.

Filippo


I've been following that one and the one about blades too. Hey Chris, what's the low-down on that saw?
Author:  SteveSmith [ Fri Jul 09, 2010 1:10 pm ]
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I called Grizzly first thing Mon morning and I had a new part yesterday. They were easy to deal with and the gal I talked knew what she was doing; all around good experience. [:Y:]

Had today off so was able to get the saw fixed. I'm still going to replace it with a 17" but now I can sell it to help defray the costs.
Author:  SteveSmith [ Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:01 pm ]
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Seems to be made out of pot metal or something very similar. Ok for carburetors but a poor choice for structural things.

I'm sure the Iturra spring didn't help either ;)
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