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| Author: | WudWerkr [ Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Polishing Tortoise NOT Tortoloid ! |
I bought the blank sheet from stew mac and cut out a pickguard , it seems dull looking , has anyone tried polishing one ? And would one go about it same as a guitarbody ? Prolly a dumb question , but if you havent caught on by know ...... I am not bashfull ! 
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| Author: | grumpy [ Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Polishing Torotoloid |
It should be very glossy as-is, but it will polish right up with the same compounds as you would use for your finishes. Start with your finest; it might be all it needs. |
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| Author: | WudWerkr [ Mon Jan 23, 2012 7:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Polishing Torotoloid |
I thought it would be glossy as well , but it has the Orange peel look of a freshly sprayed guitar and thats what I was wondering about. |
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| Author: | Tom West [ Mon Jan 23, 2012 8:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Polishing Torotoloid |
WudWerkr: Not sure if you know but Grumpy is the producer of that product. I saw your post and was going to suggest you talk to him but Mario beat me to it. Tom |
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| Author: | WudWerkr [ Mon Jan 23, 2012 9:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Polishing Torotoloid |
No i didnt know that thank you . This is my first purchase of this material thus the question . |
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| Author: | grumpy [ Tue Jan 24, 2012 10:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Polishing Torotoloid |
Hmmm, it should most definitely not have an orange-peel look to it. What can happen, and has happened, is that the material will take-on the texture of a rougher surface that was placed over it, even for a short while. So perhaps it was sent along with some other goods, or was simply sitting on a slightly rough shelf or other surface. But how it attained the texture is not important, because if you warm it up to where it becomes quite limp(a 5 or 10 second dip in hot tap water will do) then allow it to cool on a very smooth, flat surface, such as a piece of glass or mirror, or even some smooth MDF, it will return to its original "wet" look. If you've already installed it, or have applied the adhesive, don't worry, you can sand it level(I use 1500 followed by 2000 grit(CAMI, not the P rated abrasives) then buff it out with the same compounds you use for the guitar's finish. It will even come up to a great gloss when polished by hand using liquid compounds. Hope this helps! |
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| Author: | WudWerkr [ Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Polishing Torotoloid |
grumpy wrote: Hmmm, it should most definitely not have an orange-peel look to it. What can happen, and has happened, is that the material will take-on the texture of a rougher surface that was placed over it, even for a short while. So perhaps it was sent along with some other goods, or was simply sitting on a slightly rough shelf or other surface. But how it attained the texture is not important, because if you warm it up to where it becomes quite limp(a 5 or 10 second dip in hot tap water will do) then allow it to cool on a very smooth, flat surface, such as a piece of glass or mirror, or even some smooth MDF, it will return to its original "wet" look. If you've already installed it, or have applied the adhesive, don't worry, you can sand it level(I use 1500 followed by 2000 grit(CAMI, not the P rated abrasives) then buff it out with the same compounds you use for the guitar's finish. It will even come up to a great gloss when polished by hand using liquid compounds. Hope this helps! Thanks , I havent installed it yet so I may try that . It shines , but when you held it at an angle you could see that "orange peel" look . Again , first time user so new to me . I like the material it looks good and will look great on the guitar . Thanks again for the advice ! ![[:Y:]](./images/smilies/smiley20.gif "Thumbs Up")
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| Author: | MikeH [ Tue Jan 24, 2012 2:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Polishing Torotoloid |
I beg pardon if this is a really stupid question, but you have peeled off the protective layer, correct? |
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| Author: | WudWerkr [ Tue Jan 24, 2012 2:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Polishing Torotoloid |
MikeH wrote: I beg pardon if this is a really stupid question, but you have peeled off the protective layer, correct?   NOOOOOOO ![[headinwall]](./images/smilies/headbangwalluf8.gif "Mad") I didnt realize there was one on there..... Man thats shiney now !! I guess I get doofus of the month for sure now !
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| Author: | Mark Tripp [ Tue Jan 24, 2012 2:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Polishing Torotoloid |
Nice! |
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| Author: | WaddyThomson [ Tue Jan 24, 2012 2:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Polishing Torotoloid |
We're going to miss Garfield for the month!
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| Author: | WudWerkr [ Tue Jan 24, 2012 3:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Polishing Torotoloid |
Filippo Morelli wrote: grumpy wrote: It should be very glossy as-is, but it will polish right up with the same compounds as you would use for your finishes. Start with your finest; it might be all it needs. grumpy wrote: It should be very glossy as-is, but it will polish right up with the same compounds as you would use for your finishes. Start with your finest; it might be all it needs. Mario - in the case of Wud, I think he needed to start with rubbing compound. Eventually he would have worked his way through the protective peel layer, and then he could have moved to finer compounds .Filippo When I do somthing , I do it allllll theee wayyyyyyy
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| Author: | grumpy [ Tue Jan 24, 2012 3:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Polishing Torotoloid |
If there's a protective peel layer, it is NOT Tortoloid. I personally make, and package, each and every one of them, and there is no such layer. Counterfeit? |
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| Author: | WudWerkr [ Tue Jan 24, 2012 3:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Polishing Torotoloid |
grumpy wrote: If there's a protective peel layer, it is NOT Tortoloid. I personally make, and package, each and every one of them, and there is no such layer. Counterfeit? Possibly , there is a protective layer I peeled it off . Maybe I should buy from you directly in the future then . I did purchase this from stew mac and its the blank that you cut your own pickguard . Soooooo since its my first dealing with this stuff , you tell me ? I do know that under the layer of plastic it is very shiney and smooth . Could Stewmac be adding the layer for protection ? |
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| Author: | Jim_H [ Tue Jan 24, 2012 4:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Polishing Torotoloid |
Is this the item you ordered? http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Pickguards/ ... 3&xsr=8379 |
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| Author: | WudWerkr [ Tue Jan 24, 2012 4:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Polishing Torotoloid |
Jim_H wrote: This is making alot more sense to me now . No that isnt what I ordered , My apologies to Mario and Stewmac . I thought thats what I was ordering , but I ordered Tortoise , NOT Tortoloid ! Again My apologies everyone , I had my head under the work bench on this one . |
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| Author: | grumpy [ Tue Jan 24, 2012 5:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Polishing Tortoise NOT Tortoloid ! |
All cool! Just glad I don't have to travel to China to find who's making counterfeit Tortoloid... <lol> |
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| Author: | woody b [ Tue Jan 24, 2012 5:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Polishing Tortoise NOT Tortoloid ! |
grumpy wrote: All cool! Just glad I don't have to travel to China to find who's making counterfeit Tortoloid... <lol> I installed a (real) Tortoloid guard last week. It's really nice. Thanks to you, and Stew-Mac for offering us a nice product. |
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| Author: | Darryl Young [ Tue Jan 24, 2012 8:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Polishing Tortoise NOT Tortoloid ! |
I used Tortaloid (from Mario) and it looks great! I get a lot of complements on it. |
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