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Author:  L. Presnall [ Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:12 am ]
Post subject:  Houndstooth purfling ideas?
Anyone have ideas on the purchase or fabrication of a houndstooth-patterened purfling? TIA.
Author:  L. Presnall [ Wed Aug 15, 2012 4:26 pm ]
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Anybody? (bump)
Author:  DennisK [ Wed Aug 15, 2012 4:46 pm ]
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What exactly do you want it to look like in purfling form? The picture of houndstooth on wikipedia looks like it's more of a surface-covering pattern, than a fine line pattern. But in any case, it looks like it's just solid black and white squares, alternating with stripey squares that could be made by layering up different thickness veneers and then cutting it diagonally to rotate the lines by 45 degrees.
Author:  L. Presnall [ Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:11 pm ]
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Dennis,

I think that's the track my imagination is taking as well...I'm planning a 'Crimson Tide" themed guitar and we're undecided on which elements should make it into the finished instrument. Houndstooth seems like a must, and we are thinking rosette (which seems the safe and obvious choice) or the more understated top border where the pattern would be used in lace of abalone or simple purfling lines.
Author:  Spyder [ Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:32 pm ]
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Man, you have GOT to post pics of that thing! You have me intrigued...for instance, are you going to use bloodwood for the back and sides?
Author:  Billy T [ Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:49 am ]
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Lar, it looks like one element shape, in a two color layup, repeated 4 times.

I've laid out the process as I see it.

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Author:  Casey Cochran [ Thu Aug 16, 2012 6:44 am ]
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That looks like the easiest way to lay it up. To have it recognizable as houndstooth, it would need to be layered in multiples of four. 12-16 layers would look great.
Author:  John Killin [ Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:16 am ]
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Just make sure whatever wood you use for Red doesn’t, overtime, fade to Orange. That would probably work against your theme.

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Author:  Sillwic9 [ Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:36 am ]
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If it fades to orange, hopefully it will be kind of a burnt orange. Then the good Texas college will have a guitar. Hahaha
Author:  L. Presnall [ Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:07 am ]
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Phil - the back and sides will likely be maple, with a transparent dye for color...
Billy T - you always amaze me! I'm not even going to ask how you modeled that so quickly!
John - What an "Au-ful" possibility! :D
Stephen - don't get me started!
Author:  Billy T [ Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:55 am ]
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L. Presnall wrote:
...Billy T - you always amaze me!

Well... People usually say I scare the heck out of them ...I guess that's close! laughing6-hehe

L. Presnall wrote:
I'm not even going to ask how you modeled that so quickly!...
Cause I did it WRONG!! laughing6-hehe

I inadvertently inverted the two center layups! Here's what it should look like!
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And here's what they would look like laid together in a full houndstooth. Just in case, I don't know what exactly you're doing.
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Here's a picture of where houndsteeth come from!
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Author:  L. Presnall [ Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:02 pm ]
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Ha! :D I'm thinking a top border such as one would normally accomplish with herringbone or abalone, but using home rolled houndstooth instead.
Author:  Sillwic9 [ Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:40 pm ]
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Sorry, I just couldn't help myself.
Author:  Billy T [ Sat Aug 18, 2012 2:43 am ]
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Sillwic9 wrote:
Sorry, I just couldn't help myself.
That's OK!! Just don't let it happen again!!! laughing6-hehe

Just as long as it's not Tennesee!!!! :D
Author:  Sillwic9 [ Sat Aug 18, 2012 3:52 am ]
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Definitely not Tenn. Always a longhorn fan though.
Author:  L. Presnall [ Sun Aug 19, 2012 8:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Houndstooth purfling ideas?
Thanks guys! I'm brainstorming (more of a light drizzle, actually) on what material I'll use to do this...I'm thinking initially of WBW plastic purfling lines and using an exacto to scrape the white off so that I have the segments...then laying up the lines side-by-side for the pattern...but Andy Dufrene tunnneled out of Shawshank with a rock hammer faster than I'll be able to do this...brainstorming continues.... [xx(]
Author:  John Killin [ Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:47 am ]
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Looking at Billy T's final pic, what if you just split a piece of Herringbone down the middle than glued the side pieced to another strip (but backwards)? If you are doing black and white, I would think that would work.

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Author:  Billy T [ Sun Aug 19, 2012 11:29 am ]
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Best bet Lar, is to do a straight layup of flat veneer, fishpaper or plastic and after it sets cut the small strips on the bias. I'm pretty sure the angle is 45º.

I don't know how wide you're planning on making these. That would probably determine what's the best way to approach this as for material and technique.
Author:  L. Presnall [ Sun Aug 19, 2012 11:58 am ]
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Billy, I'm a product of the Alabama Public Education System. 'Laborate a little...I think I'm getting it, but I need another illystrashun...
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