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| Author: | Pat Hawley [ Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Binding Gluing Technique |
Following Todd's advice, I'd like to try fish glue for my next binding job. I've used fish glue many years ago and my recollection is that, although I liked it, I found it hard to be neat with the stuff. So I am interested in how people apply the glue in demanding situations of doing purflings and bindings. For example if your purfling is comprised of three components, say, striping, zipflex, striping how do you neatly apply the glue to get in between all the purfling components and then outside that for the binding? Do you brush it in? How much glue do you apply at a time - a few inches, a whole side? Thanks, Pat |
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| Author: | Dave Stewart [ Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Binding Gluing Technique |
Almost invariably I use syringes to corral glues into manageable applicators. Pat, if you have a co-op or TSC store in the area, they have all kinds of syringes with different sized replaceable needles for agricultural use & dirt cheap. (BuzyBee & LV also have 1pc syringes if you want to pay more  )
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| Author: | SteveSmith [ Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Binding Gluing Technique |
+1 on the small 1oz bottles. I keep one with fish glue in it. Also if I'm doing messy glue-ups like with epoxy so not necessarily binding, I wear some cheap nitrile gloves that I can just strip off and throw away. |
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| Author: | Josh H [ Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Binding Gluing Technique |
I use whatever bottle of fish glue happens to be handy (usually a larger bottle). I'll glue 1 piece of binding in 2-3 sections. I try to apply enough glue so that I get a little bit of squeeze out. Having some water handy is a great suggestion as your fingers tend to get pretty sticky. I've found fish glue so much easier to scrape and sand that it makes up for a binding job that might be a little more messy. With a little practice you can do just as clean a job with fish glue as with any other glue. Josh |
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| Author: | Fred Tellier [ Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Binding Gluing Technique |
When I use fish glue I have a damp towel hanging to keep cleaning my hands if I get glue on them. We spread a lot of glue smudges with our hands as we touch the body. Besides I hate sticky fingers. Fish glue wipes off real nice with hot water before it is fully cured. As Josh says it scrapes of real easy. Fred |
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| Author: | Terence Kennedy [ Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Binding Gluing Technique |
Syringes for me too. 18G needle. Glue up about 6" at a time. Works slick. |
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| Author: | sdsollod [ Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Binding Gluing Technique |
BTW- There may not be a lot of varieties to choose from but, the drug store will give you syringes for free. I guess it is just in case you are a drug user... in any case, my local drug store gives them to me... they may or may not believe my story. 
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| Author: | Jim Kirby [ Sat Dec 01, 2012 9:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Binding Gluing Technique |
Same as most everyone above said - small applicator bottle, wet rags handy, and I run all the purfling strips through a pool of glue between two fingers. I like to make a real mess and get everything really saturated. I use blue tape and mask the sides (and top or back) almost right up to the binding channels, to avoid some of the overall mess and drips, but that can be avoided with wet rags too - it just seems to take me more hands than I have to keep up with it using rags. |
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| Author: | Jim Kirby [ Sat Dec 01, 2012 9:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Binding Gluing Technique |
double post (seems to be a Chrome feature - Firefox always seems to ignore the first try if a second one is piled on behind.) |
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| Author: | Pat Hawley [ Sat Dec 01, 2012 9:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Binding Gluing Technique |
Thanks for the responses. Here's a little method I worked out yesterday to apply small amounts of the fish glue. I was trying to find out if 1 ml transfer pipettes could suck up fish glue (normally I use these pipettes for CA). I found they could. Then I tried stretching out the end of one the pipettes to make it a really small diameter (again, like I do when using it for CA) but found it then could not suck up the relatively high viscosity glue. So then I took a new pipette, sucked up a bunch of glue, cleaned off the end and then stretched it out to a tiny diameter. After that, I was able to squeeze the glue out of the pipette in very small amounts. Hope people can find that of some use. Cheers, Pat |
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| Author: | mqbernardo [ Sat Dec 01, 2012 10:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Binding Gluing Technique |
thanks for the tip, might be useful. Todd Stock wrote: Best tool to keep it neat? An extra pair of hands :D so true!
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| Author: | Jim Kirby [ Sat Dec 01, 2012 7:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Binding Gluing Technique |
Pat Hawley wrote: Thanks for the responses. Here's a little method I worked out yesterday to apply small amounts of the fish glue. I was trying to find out if 1 ml transfer pipettes could suck up fish glue (normally I use these pipettes for CA). I found they could. Then I tried stretching out the end of one the pipettes to make it a really small diameter (again, like I do when using it for CA) but found it then could not suck up the relatively high viscosity glue. So then I took a new pipette, sucked up a bunch of glue, cleaned off the end and then stretched it out to a tiny diameter. After that, I was able to squeeze the glue out of the pipette in very small amounts. Hope people can find that of some use. Cheers, Pat I think my technique looks more like caulking gun application 
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