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Author:  Mike Collins [ Tue Feb 26, 2013 10:58 am ]
Post subject:  A4 linings
I'm sorry if someone has posted about this before.
I just used the Ryan A4 Sp. Cedar linings on a cutaway.
NICE!
Even if they break they go back together with no sign or clue of a break.

I put them around some tight bends-no problem!

Plus their Zip-Flex is nice to use also.
Has anyone else tried these products?

Mike
Author:  Casey Cochran [ Tue Feb 26, 2013 11:02 am ]
Post subject:  Re: A4 linings
Haven't used those linings, but they look very nice. Petros sells a similar product that is a bit less expensive.
Author:  Pmaj7 [ Tue Feb 26, 2013 11:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Re: A4 linings
Casey Cochran wrote:
Petros sells a similar product that is a bit less expensive.

Actually, it looks like the Petros stuff is about $40, while the Ryan A4 is about $30. They both look pretty cool, but I'm waiting for some kind of 'spray in' lining. No need for kerfs.


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Author:  WaddyThomson [ Tue Feb 26, 2013 11:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: A4 linings
I have been using the A-4 linings for my last 8 guitars. Love them for both the ease of use and the look inside the guitar. Great stuff. Bends in every direction, stretches, compresses, but when glued to sides give s good stiff rim. Could easily be capped with a veneer to stiffen even more.
Author:  PeterF [ Tue Feb 26, 2013 11:55 am ]
Post subject:  Re: A4 linings
Casey Cochran wrote:
They both look pretty cool, but I'm waiting for some kind of 'spray in' lining. No need for kerfs.


I suppose you could just use a thickened epoxy fillet, but I don't think it would do the sound any good!
Author:  Casey Cochran [ Tue Feb 26, 2013 11:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Re: A4 linings
pat macaluso wrote:
Casey Cochran wrote:
Petros sells a similar product that is a bit less expensive.

Actually, it looks like the Petros stuff is about $40, while the Ryan A4 is about $30. They both look pretty cool, but I'm waiting for some kind of 'spray in' lining. No need for kerfs.


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16" long. Good catch, Pat. The A4 looks like a cleaner product in the web photos, and cheaper to boot!
Author:  Pmaj7 [ Tue Feb 26, 2013 12:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: A4 linings
PeterF wrote:
Casey Cochran wrote:
They both look pretty cool, but I'm waiting for some kind of 'spray in' lining. No need for kerfs.


I suppose you could just use a thickened epoxy fillet, but I don't think it would do the sound any good!

Nice. You could patent it and call it "Fillet'O'Kerf".

Casey Cochran wrote:
pat macaluso wrote:
Casey Cochran wrote:
Petros sells a similar product that is a bit less expensive.

Actually, it looks like the Petros stuff is about $40, while the Ryan A4 is about $30. They both look pretty cool, but I'm waiting for some kind of 'spray in' lining. No need for kerfs.


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16" long. Good catch, Pat. The A4 looks like a cleaner product in the web photos, and cheaper to boot!

Ya, I definitely want to try it. Looks like Petros tried to copy the Grumpy kerf (of wich he says he's not giving up his technic). I tried to copy it too but have yet to put it in a guitar. It's not a time saver but it looks and works well.
Author:  dberkowitz [ Wed Feb 27, 2013 9:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: A4 linings
What is the "Grumpy" kerfing?
Author:  WaddyThomson [ Wed Feb 27, 2013 1:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: A4 linings
It's a secret! :D
Author:  Pmaj7 [ Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: A4 linings
dberkowitz wrote:
What is the "Grumpy" kerfing?

http://www.proulxguitars.com/buildup/build3.htm
Author:  itswednesday14 [ Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: A4 linings
It appears to be 1/2" thick total of 3 angle kerfed strips. Should be very stiff.
Author:  Pmaj7 [ Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: A4 linings
itswednesday14 wrote:
It appears to be 1/2" thick total of 3 angle kerfed strips. Should be very stiff.

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Author:  Casey Cochran [ Sun May 19, 2013 12:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: A4 linings
Just a quick follow-up on the A4 linings. I used them on my latest build and I am completely sold on them. They went in very clean with absolutely no squeeze out. With the spreader system that I use, the pita that saves is enough for me but these linings also look awesome. Be careful, they are fragile until you get them installed. Great product!
Author:  Don Williams [ Sun May 19, 2013 3:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: A4 linings
Similar linings to the A4 are SO easy to make on a cnc...
Author:  Josh H [ Sun May 19, 2013 9:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: A4 linings
Don Williams wrote:
Similar linings to the A4 are SO easy to make on a cnc...


Hey Don,
Since Kevin came out with the A4 liners I've seen a number of people attempt to copy them. So far I've seen some copies that are functionally the same (flex in all directions), but none of them have come close to being as nice and clean as the real A4. Are you making something similar on your CNC? Kevin's are all done with a laser and any design I've thought of making on my CNC would not be near as neat. The kerfs would certainly be a lot wider and due to the time it would take to rout them I figure I am way ahead to just buy the A4.

I switched to the A4 liners shortly after Kevin started offering them, I've been extremely happy with them and can't see going back to anything else.

Josh
Author:  Mike_P [ Sun May 19, 2013 10:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: A4 linings
itswednesday14 wrote:
It appears to be 1/2" thick total of 3 angle kerfed strips. Should be very stiff.


looks like 1/2" noodle board to me (aka bender plywood) with a round over on it...
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