Colin, is this the guitar you finished with the EV-Urethane (see below)? This guitar looks great! If so, how hard is the finish? And what did you use for pore fill and sealer?
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| Author: | Darryl Young [ Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Anyone Tried Enduro-Var Urethane Varnish on a Guitar |
While checking out the Arm-R-Seal finish from General (that Ken Franklin mentioned in another thead) I noticed General offers a Urethane Varnish called Enduro-Var. I'm curious if wnyone has tried this on a guitar and what results you had. The website says it can be sprayed or brushed and has a slight amber tint. They claim it it looks more like an oil varnish than a water coating. Nice that it's available in a pint container. Thoughts? |
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| Author: | Colin North [ Mon Apr 08, 2013 2:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Anyone Tried Enduro-Var Urethane Varnish on a Guitar |
I've not long sprayed and buffed a guitar with Enduro-Var gloss. Z-Poxy pore fill (except soundboard),coat of shellac, then Endoro-Var. FWIW, as a newbie, it seems good to spray with my Fujiand I thinned 5-10% as my shop was running 70/75+ degrees. Sanded trough and got very obvious witness lines but they buffed out. Not yet dared to take a fingernail to it. I posted a couple of not very good pics here http://www.luthiersforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10101&t=39878&start=25 2nd pic, of top, taken indoors, so appears a bit deeper amber/yellow than it actually is. |
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| Author: | Darryl Young [ Mon Apr 08, 2013 2:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Anyone Tried Enduro-Var Urethane Varnish on a Guitar |
Colin, is this the guitar you finished with the EV-Urethane (see below)? This guitar looks great! If so, how hard is the finish? And what did you use for pore fill and sealer? |
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| Author: | Colin North [ Mon Apr 08, 2013 2:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Anyone Tried Enduro-Var Urethane Varnish on a Guitar |
Sorry Darryl, we were both typing at the same time - see edits. |
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| Author: | Colin North [ Mon Apr 08, 2013 3:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Anyone Tried Enduro-Var Urethane Varnish on a Guitar |
OK, FWIW, I just took a firm fingernail across the finish. On the top, and after about 5/6 weeks drying, at about 3 -3.5 thou thickness over Englemann, it is noticeably softer than 12 coats of nitro (over Sitka). The Englemann will dent, the sitka will also dent, but less. A similar fingernail on the sides, at maybe 5-6 thou(?) thickness (plus Z-Poxy of course), it is still a little softer than the nitro over EIR. The nitro guitar is 5 years old. Hope that helps. |
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| Author: | Darryl Young [ Mon Apr 08, 2013 4:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Anyone Tried Enduro-Var Urethane Varnish on a Guitar |
That does help, thanks. No problems with the finish sticking to shellac? If you've got to the point where you remove the finish for the bridge I'm guessing youhave a good idea how well it adheres to shellac. I wonder if it would adhere directly to epoxy? |
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| Author: | Colin North [ Mon Apr 08, 2013 6:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Anyone Tried Enduro-Var Urethane Varnish on a Guitar |
Sorry, I'm at the stage where I should be ready to remove the finish to fit the bridge, but have other things distracting me at the moment (sanded through the edges of the headstock, so re-finishing that, and I am working on a finishing shop) I don't know that it would adhere well to epoxy, can't say for sure. I used the shellac (just wiped on a couple of thin coats) because I understand pretty much anything will stick to it (as well as it giving depth to the finish), and used it successfully before under a different water based (acrylic) I have noticed that the E-V seems harder than the earlier water based gloss, and it does buff very easily (merenza medium and fine - 16 and 6) |
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