Looking good!
Should be useful for the bench project.
Is that the fine adjuster sitting on the infeed table?
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| Author: | Tai Fu [ Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | "new" 12" jointer in the shop |
I just got this today... it looks kinda rough and while the table is very flat it isn't smooth like a new table... Has a 2HP motor and it has been reconditioned by the seller (table leveled and trued). It has a parallelogram way. Only paid 500 dollars for it though. |
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| Author: | Colin North [ Tue Apr 30, 2013 3:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "new" 12" jointer in the shop |
Looking good! Should be useful for the bench project. Is that the fine adjuster sitting on the infeed table?
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| Author: | Tai Fu [ Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "new" 12" jointer in the shop |
It didnt have a guard... |
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| Author: | ChuckB [ Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "new" 12" jointer in the shop |
That's a nice score! You can always make your own guard. Chuck |
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| Author: | Alex Kleon [ Tue Apr 30, 2013 6:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "new" 12" jointer in the shop |
I think you should move it to the other side of the room.  Alex |
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| Author: | murrmac [ Tue Apr 30, 2013 7:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "new" 12" jointer in the shop |
As Todd said, you definitely need a guard, unless of course there is a facility for moving the fence laterally, (which there doesn't appear to be ). I don't see any holes into which you could fix a post for a guard ...looks like you are going to have to do some creative drilling and tapping... |
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| Author: | Tai Fu [ Tue Apr 30, 2013 7:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "new" 12" jointer in the shop |
I will probably make one out of wood like that woodgears site, but i think i really only need it for edge jointing because a guard gets in the way for face joining. The fence moves via tow knobs behind it, and there are several holes in the outfeed table to extend its movement range |
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| Author: | Chris Ensor [ Tue Apr 30, 2013 7:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "new" 12" jointer in the shop |
Is that a patch of grass on the wall? |
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| Author: | Tai Fu [ Tue Apr 30, 2013 8:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "new" 12" jointer in the shop |
Its a carpet to stop noise from bothering my neighbor |
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| Author: | crazymanmichael [ Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:02 am ] |
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at $500 you didn't buy it you stole it! how many folks did it take to get it into your shop? |
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| Author: | Tai Fu [ Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "new" 12" jointer in the shop |
It took 4 guys, bringing it up in TWO pieces. It's THAT heavy. It's probably heavier than my bandsaw even though it occupies way less volume. The whole thing is cast iron as far as I can tell... casting looks a little rough in places but whatever warping it must have had happened a long time ago, because the seller said the jointer is older than him, and he looks to be around 40 years old. The seller initially didn't want to disassemble it because he said it might screw the alignment up, but we decided it was necessary. He initially thought it was only two STEPS of stairs rather than two flights of stairs. It's smooth as hell though, even though it's chewing through over 7" of hard maple. |
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| Author: | Bryan Bear [ Tue Apr 30, 2013 12:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "new" 12" jointer in the shop |
Make a guard for that thing right now. Then make sure you use it (even if it is inconvenient). |
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| Author: | Link Van Cleave [ Tue Apr 30, 2013 12:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "new" 12" jointer in the shop |
Tai Fu wrote: I will probably make one out of wood like that woodgears site, but i think i really only need it for edge jointing because a guard gets in the way for face joining. The fence moves via tow knobs behind it, and there are several holes in the outfeed table to extend its movement range Actually you would need it more for face jointing. Hands closer to the knives, more surface area to grab, etc. The convenience of guard of lack of it doesn't determine the need for its use. There are different designs for guards. Some would allow you to run the board under the guard when face jointing. Check out some of the Euro machines for guard designs. L. |
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| Author: | Alex Kleon [ Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "new" 12" jointer in the shop |
I agree with Bryan. I took a bit off the tip of my ring finger last fall, and I have a blade guard on my jointer! It shouldn't be too difficult to attach a blade guard to the outside edge of the infeed table, near the blade. You can make it out of plywood and a couple of bolts and washers. Alex |
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| Author: | Randolph [ Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "new" 12" jointer in the shop |
Alex Kleon wrote: I agree with Bryan. I took a bit off the tip of my ring finger last fall, and I have a blade guard on my jointer! It shouldn't be too difficult to attach a blade guard to the outside edge of the infeed table, near the blade. You can make it out of plywood and a couple of bolts and washers. Alex You were so lucky with just the tip of your finger. Usually joiners grab on and suck your fingers in down to the last joint! I agree. Make the guard before you turn that thing on! |
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| Author: | the Padma [ Tue Apr 30, 2013 7:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "new" 12" jointer in the shop |
Guard is a must....but so are 2 rubber soled push paddles.  Padma has earned all three woodworking badges...band saw, table saw (that cost me left thumb tip) and jointer. The jointer was the worst. Looked like a pile of sliced bologna.  Also suggest moving the fence over the entire blade, only exposing the amt. of blade needed for the cut. Putting an edge on a 1 inch board with 7 inches of exposed blades...well you don't wanna go there. I picked up a 3 blade, 3 horse, long bed 8 inch jointer from the 40's for $350 and that was a steal back 3o years ago. So ya ...nice score! ![[clap]](./images/smilies/smiley32.gif "adulations") Blessings ?adma
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| Author: | Clay S. [ Sun May 05, 2013 7:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "new" 12" jointer in the shop |
Those short bed jointers are nice for the type of work we usually do - jointing and facing relatively short pieces. More important than the guard is learning good technique and a healthy respect for the damage that tool can do. Any meat you lose to it instantly becomes hamburger, there is nothing to be sewn back on. I clipped the tip of my index finger on a jointer, then shortened it a bit more with a belt sander a few years later. Ouch! Paddles and push sticks can keep your hands out of harms way, and although they often don't hold the work as securely as a hand will, it is better to lose a work piece than part of your hand. Don't get me wrong, a guard would be a good addition, but it won't make up for poor technique. |
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| Author: | My Dog Bob [ Sun May 05, 2013 8:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "new" 12" jointer in the shop |
Check out the Old Wood Working Machines website (I think that's what they're called) http://www.owwm.org I have some old machine tools and the folks on there are super helpful and will be able to answer questions about setup, parts and whatever.. It's possible you could even find an original guard and any other parts you might want/need through them. They have tons of original literature scanned in - exploded view diagrams and user manuals, pictures of restored and original tools and Forums to ask questions about anything related to that sort of stuff. The network is large and the site is invaluable if you have old American-made machine tools.. My 1946 Unisaw and 1932 Drill press (DP220) are perfectly setup and complete in every detail because of them.. One of the best websites I have found if you like old stationary power tools. Regards, Peter |
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| Author: | Tai Fu [ Sun May 05, 2013 11:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: "new" 12" jointer in the shop |
I don't know what the design of the jointer was based on, it was made in Taiwan. It did not appear to have any guard at all in the first place (no place to really put one) so I was thinking perhaps back then in Taiwan they never thought it was necessary? The casting looks kinda rough in places but was wondering if they were just rusting and pitting from before. By the way I do notice the bed length was kinda short for its width, but if the bed was any longer it wouldn't fit in the shop... |
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