That was going to be my next suggestion.
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| Author: | Jeff Highland [ Wed May 15, 2013 2:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | String Breakage |
Hi Guys, looking for some advice. I've got a player who is breaking a lot of strings (D and G) on his Cole Clark acoustic while playing gigs with a duo. They are always breaking at the saddle. I have smoothed the saddle, the break angle is not excessive. 12-53 d'Addarios both coated and plain He thinks there is a problem with the guitar, I am inclined to think he is just playing a lot harder in the duo situation. Any suggestions, is going to mediums worth exploring? |
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| Author: | Chris Pile [ Wed May 15, 2013 4:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: String Breakage |
Has he tried a different brand of strings? |
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| Author: | Michael.N. [ Wed May 15, 2013 5:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: String Breakage |
NOT the Guitar. If the saddle is smooth and break angle fine it's either the strings or the Player. Assuming he isn't playing at above 440 Hz and/or ridiculous string length. Logically there's nothing else to blame! He could try a different type/make of string. That would seem the next sensible move. |
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| Author: | jfmckenna [ Wed May 15, 2013 9:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: String Breakage |
Tell him to try a lighter gauge pick. Sounds like player issues to me. Is he doing the Townsend windmill or something? |
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| Author: | JasonMoe [ Fri May 17, 2013 2:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: String Breakage |
I had some weird breakage with a few sets of d'Addario. D and G strings also, but on the tuner posts. Maybe we just got a faulty batch of steel. I broke 2 sets on a string up, and the 3rd has held fine for 9 months. |
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| Author: | Tony_in_NYC [ Fri May 17, 2013 7:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: String Breakage |
JasonMoe wrote: I had some weird breakage with a few sets of d'Addario. D and G strings also, but on the tuner posts. Maybe we just got a faulty batch of steel. I broke 2 sets on a string up, and the 3rd has held fine for 9 months. My friend had a 000-15 that would constantly break the high E at the tuner post. There was a sharp edge on the tuner hole that was breaking the string after about 5 minutes of playing. He took it back to the store he purchased it at and they swapped out the tuner and he has been fine since. This does not help the OP, but it might be an issue for you Jason. For the OP, maybe the distance between the string hole and the saddle is at the right distance such that the winding at the ball end is causing the problem. If the string is bending right where the doubled section ends, it is possible that is what is causing the breakage. This is just a thought since I have not seen the broken strings, but it is a possibility. |
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| Author: | Jeff Highland [ Fri May 17, 2013 6:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: String Breakage |
Turn out he was using a 2mm pick and playing as hard as that allowed. A softer pick and more restraint seem to have fixed the problem |
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| Author: | Tony_in_NYC [ Fri May 17, 2013 8:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: String Breakage |
That was going to be my next suggestion.
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| Author: | James Ringelspaugh [ Fri May 17, 2013 8:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: String Breakage |
Todd Stock wrote: Thinking back, I had a customer that - like yours - beat the living crap out of his D-28 to the point that the rosette was woodshedded and I ended up fabricating a new guard that ran all the way to the bevel on the soundhole. He gave me all this nonsense about being an ex-punker and maintaining the artistic integrity of his playing and such as to why he played that way. I suggested that playing a little less forcefully and with the right string gauge and action would dramatically improve his tone for recording sessions. It did. And yes - I just wrote that. How dare some musician tell you how he should play his guitar! |
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| Author: | dzsmith [ Sat May 18, 2013 11:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: String Breakage |
Todd Stock wrote: Thinking back, I had a customer that - like yours - beat the living crap out of his D-28 to the point that the rosette was woodshedded and I ended up fabricating a new guard that ran all the way to the bevel on the soundhole. He gave me all this nonsense about being an ex-punker and maintaining the artistic integrity of his playing and such as to why he played that way. I suggested that playing a little less forcefully and with the right string gauge and action would dramatically improve his tone for recording sessions. It did. And yes - I just wrote that. Todd, it sounds like you are a true gentleman. I would have hit him with a rolled up newspaper and yelled "NO!" And them rubbed his face into the splinters. Not really, but I would be thinking of doing it. |
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