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Author:  MaxBishop [ Mon May 20, 2013 10:55 am ]
Post subject:  Anyone interested in persimmon?
In the past there have been discussions about alternative woods for fretboards. Persimmon was suggested as a possible candidate. There is currently a source for persimmon wood and the provider states, "If you are looking for some special size of Persimmon for a project, let me know and I will be happy to cut it for you as we cut some more logs." You can reach the source via the following link:

http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001RxH-oF2fziv9evLRp11Q_vwYYe_22Y7AZ-4h5RhF5yZ175URDq4QMt1Nh_cvmdg7ZGKiYKQ3xyq4LT129W8wpubAZ3slg_0LBD-WTPL7ImKTpfX2Sc9sv8IV6ksf1nHeI8uyiz_6KjQ=
Author:  John Arnold [ Mon May 20, 2013 12:10 pm ]
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Being a member of the ebony family, it is a lot more interesting when it has some black in it. It's not too common, but worth searching for.

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Author:  Chris Pile [ Mon May 20, 2013 12:24 pm ]
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A little dye will take care of that.
Author:  Alan Carruth [ Mon May 20, 2013 12:35 pm ]
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Tom Thiel has worked out a method of dying persimmon black all the way through for fingerboards. He's selling it as 'American Ebony' (which it certainly is). I don't know what he's asking for it, or what the availability will be.
Author:  ernie [ Mon May 20, 2013 1:55 pm ]
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I/ve got lots of persimmon .I used to dye streaky ebony vln fb with black shoe dye, works.
Author:  oval soundhole [ Mon May 20, 2013 3:33 pm ]
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Alan Carruth wrote:
Tom Thiel has worked out a method of dying persimmon black all the way through for fingerboards. He's selling it as 'American Ebony' (which it certainly is). I don't know what he's asking for it, or what the availability will be.


Tom showed me this at woodstock: it's really very nice and looks a lot like typical african ebony. I'm looking forward to seeing some instruments made with it.
Author:  Clinchriver [ Mon May 20, 2013 5:12 pm ]
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I used persimmon for the fingerboard and bridge on my #1. I left it natural and it quickly smudged to a dirty off white so I stained it black and it looks much better. The bridge was super light and I feel really helps the sound. When I use it again I would like it permanently dyed black.
Author:  Goodin [ Mon May 20, 2013 6:44 pm ]
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Clinchriver wrote:
I used persimmon for the fingerboard and bridge on my #1. I left it natural and it quickly smudged to a dirty off white so I stained it black and it looks much better. The bridge was super light and I feel really helps the sound. When I use it again I would like it permanently dyed black.


Is that the one you brought to the meet at Woodcraft awhile back? Nice sounding guitar.

I would like to hear the process of dying persimmon black all the way through.
Author:  Clinchriver [ Mon May 20, 2013 6:46 pm ]
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Goodin wrote:
Clinchriver wrote:
I used persimmon for the fingerboard and bridge on my #1. I left it natural and it quickly smudged to a dirty off white so I stained it black and it looks much better. The bridge was super light and I feel really helps the sound. When I use it again I would like it permanently dyed black.


Is that the one you brought to the meet at Woodcraft awhile back? Nice sounding guitar.

I would like to hear the process of dying persimmon black all the way through.



Yes and thank you.

Me too.
Author:  MaxBishop [ Tue May 21, 2013 6:12 am ]
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FYI, I am not offering the persimmon wood discussed in this thread. The actual provider is NC Wood at

http://www.ncwood.biz/

Best wishes,
Max
Author:  Michael.N. [ Tue May 21, 2013 7:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Anyone interested in persimmon?
Goodin wrote:
Clinchriver wrote:
I used persimmon for the fingerboard and bridge on my #1. I left it natural and it quickly smudged to a dirty off white so I stained it black and it looks much better. The bridge was super light and I feel really helps the sound. When I use it again I would like it permanently dyed black.


Is that the one you brought to the meet at Woodcraft awhile back? Nice sounding guitar.

I would like to hear the process of dying persimmon black all the way through.



So would I. I guess it must be some sort of vacuum/pressure treatment. What else can it possibly be?
Author:  Alan Carruth [ Tue May 21, 2013 1:42 pm ]
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Tom and another fellow have spent several years working out the process, so he's understandably cagey about saying much about it. I imagine it's a vacuum process, but that covers a lot of ground.

When I use persimmon for fingerboards I dye it with a 'tea' made from black walnut hulls. It's just a surface treatment, of course, but it helps keep it from looking dirty. I find that binding the board with walnut is a big help; after it's stained the binding doesn't really show, and it saves having to worry about slopping stain on the neck.
Author:  Tai Fu [ Wed May 22, 2013 1:27 pm ]
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I ate some persimmon as a kid... kinda looks weird because it looks like tomato but is quite sweet...

The fruit is very common in Taiwan...
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