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| Author: | ernie [ Thu Jun 06, 2013 7:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Gore/gilet 12 fret falcate SS bridge plate |
Anyone out there using this plan ? If so , the bridge plate calls for rosewood 2.5mm I checked my scrap box , and it has , spruce , fir, osage orange abt .80 density and pecan and black locust abt .70- .75 . Can one substitute one of these woods for the rosewoods ?? thanks. |
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| Author: | meddlingfool [ Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gore/gilet 12 fret falcate SS bridge plate |
I would suspect the actual material is less important than the spirit of it. Of the woods listed, I would choose Osage.... |
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| Author: | SteveSmith [ Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gore/gilet 12 fret falcate SS bridge plate |
I built a 14 fret falcate dread from the Tore/Gilet plans. I used some rosewood because I had it but I would not hesitate to use Osage Orange or Locust. I would use whichever is the least dense. IMO a large portion of the strength and stability of the bridge plate in this design is due to the carbon-fiber layer between the plate and the top. Here's a link to the one I did for the Challenge last year: http://www.luthiersforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10133&t=37257&start=100 |
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| Author: | ernie [ Thu Jun 06, 2013 11:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gore/gilet 12 fret falcate SS bridge plate |
Steve of the 3 the pecan IMo is the least dense? thanks for the link |
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| Author: | Trevor Gore [ Thu Jun 06, 2013 6:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gore/gilet 12 fret falcate SS bridge plate |
With the CF under, I've taken the wood thickness down to 1.5mm without any problems. You want a hard, stable wood for your bridge plate, so there's quite a choice, most of the rosewoods, hard maple, bloodwood (brosimum rubescens), etc.. I like to make the bridgeplate out of the same species as the back and sides if they are hard enough and you should be able to get it out of the back off-cuts. If nothing else, osage should be fine. |
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| Author: | James Ringelspaugh [ Thu Jun 06, 2013 6:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gore/gilet 12 fret falcate SS bridge plate |
Maybe I'm missing something but if you're going to have carbon fiber in the bridge plate mix, why not have it on the outside (bridge->top->bridge plate->carbon fiber)? It seems like it would make the structure more stiff and provide the best resistance against wear from the ball ends of the strings if it was the outside layer of the sandwich so to speak. Being inside seems like it would add weight without a whole lot of stiffness. Is there a different reason to use CF there? |
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| Author: | Trevor Gore [ Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gore/gilet 12 fret falcate SS bridge plate |
James Ringelspaugh wrote: Is there a different reason to use CF there? It works in conjunction with the CF in the bridge itself so that you have an I-beam type structure. If you put the CF on the "outside" (i.e. not sandwiched between the bridge plate and top) there is a risk of it chipping around the ball ends of the string due to its brittleness. |
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| Author: | ernie [ Fri Jun 07, 2013 7:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gore/gilet 12 fret falcate SS bridge plate |
Is the cf in the bridge plate same as braces trev? |
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| Author: | Trevor Gore [ Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gore/gilet 12 fret falcate SS bridge plate |
Yes, but it's the CF yarn in the braces that is pulled from the woven cloth that I use for the bridge plate and in the bridge. Spec. is here |
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| Author: | WindyCityBluesBox [ Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gore/gilet 12 fret falcate SS bridge plate |
Trevor, I have your book as well. Its an excellent book but I find it even more incredible that you take the time to personally answer questions like this |
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| Author: | Trevor Gore [ Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gore/gilet 12 fret falcate SS bridge plate |
Call it after sales service... |
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| Author: | ernie [ Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gore/gilet 12 fret falcate SS bridge plate |
Thanks trev , just wanted to make doubly sure. |
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