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Author:  Jschlueter [ Mon Aug 19, 2013 6:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Honduran Rosewood

I nabbed this set of Honduran Rosewood from Hibdon recently and he has a few other nice sets too if anyone is looking. To my eyes that is one of the nicest sets I have been able to find recently!

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Author:  TRein [ Mon Aug 19, 2013 9:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Honduran Rosewood

I know it like spitting into the wind, but there is no such thing as "Honduran rosewood". It is called Honduras rosewood. Just like "Canada goose", a bird which may or may not come from Canada. Honduras rosewood comes from other countries besides Honduras.

Author:  absrec [ Mon Aug 19, 2013 10:49 pm ]
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Good explanation Filippo. I like Honduran(s) rosewood a lot. I have a pile of fretboards I made out of a piece I found last year. They always play, sound and look great. I was told that this particular kind of rosewood is the most similar in density to Brazilian though the color isn't anywhere close. I just built a chambered "solid body" out of it and let me tell you, it is freaking heavy. The thing weighs as much as a Les Paul even with all that wood hogged out. It also looks quite striking though a clear finish.

Author:  Jschlueter [ Mon Aug 19, 2013 11:33 pm ]
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I agree that it was somewhat expensive but nothing else I have found was anywhere near this well quartered. So I opted to pay more for the quality.

Author:  Jschlueter [ Mon Aug 19, 2013 11:48 pm ]
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Thanks Filippo, I always appreciate your input! Now I just hope I can do it justice!

Author:  Rodger Knox [ Tue Aug 20, 2013 11:51 am ]
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Filippo Morelli wrote:
Well ... wood is one of those things where it has many common trade names. A simple google search will tell you that "Honduran Rosewood" is a frequent trade name for Dalbergia Stevensonii. Consider Spanish cedar, which is neither from Spain nor a true cedar!

Honduran/Honduras Rosewood comes from Honduras, as well as a few neighboring countries, best as I recall. Sometimes burls are found, and they are thought mostly to come from Belize (and I've seen it called Belizian Rosewood Burl), though I'm unsure whether it is true that burl only comes from Belize.

Now ... Brazilian Rosewood (Dalbergia Nigra) ... that ONLY comes from Brazil :-D

Filippo


Actually, the Dutch transplanted Dalbergia Nigra to Indonesia a couple of hundred years ago. That could be complete BS, I don't remember where I read it, but I don't think the source had anything to do with musical instruments. Maybe National Geographic? idunno

Author:  TonyKarol [ Tue Aug 20, 2013 1:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Honduran Rosewood

I know for a fact that there is some decent honduran mahogany, the real stuff, sweetenia, coming from over there somewhere - one of the local hardwood shops had some big planks about a year or so ago, it looked pretty decent.

Author:  John Arnold [ Thu Aug 22, 2013 3:48 pm ]
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Quote:
I was told that this particular kind of rosewood is the most similar in density to Brazilian though the color isn't anywhere close.

Honduras RW (D. stevensonii) is denser than BR on average. Indian RW and some samples of Madagascar RW are closer to the same density range as BR.
That is the most expensive set I have seen.

Author:  mqbernardo [ Sat Aug 24, 2013 5:07 pm ]
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How much did it cost?

Author:  MikeyV [ Sat Aug 24, 2013 6:48 pm ]
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That's probably the nicest set I've seen, looks wise. Quartered, of course. Also the most expensive.

I'm with you, you gotta pay the man if you want the good stuff. I think of this ind of wool like a bond. It can only go up in value as it becomes more scarce, especially that level of quality.

Beautiful! Ont of my fave woods.

Author:  Jschlueter [ Sat Aug 24, 2013 11:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Honduran Rosewood

I called Old Standard Wood and he said he wouldn't have any sets for at least 3 months and the ones he would have probably wouldn't be completely quartersawn. He told me even if the grain runs closer to riftsawn they still sell it as quartersawn because of the rarity of truly quartersawn Honduras Rosewood. This is in no way intended as a slight to Old Standard it is just a commentary on how hard it is to find right now. So even though I did pay a little more I think I got my moneys worth. This piece is dead on quartersawn and nicely figured. Coincidentally, if you turn the back over you cannot see the knots, so I will probably build with the other side out.

Author:  absrec [ Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Honduran Rosewood

I built a few guitars with Honduran(s) mahogany. I actually found a piece that was quarter sawn and built a carve top with it. It's lighter and sounds great. Also works super easy. You can find it. Just gotta look around.

Author:  Jschlueter [ Tue Aug 27, 2013 3:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Honduran Rosewood

absrec wrote:
I built a few guitars with Honduran(s) mahogany. I actually found a piece that was quarter sawn and built a carve top with it. It's lighter and sounds great. Also works super easy. You can find it. Just gotta look around.


Actually this thread is in reference to Honduras Rosewood NOT Mahogany. Thanks for the input though! :D

Author:  Tony_in_NYC [ Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Honduran Rosewood

I thought we were devolving the thread to talk about anything from Honduras. I dated a Honduran girl once. She could sing when plucked correctly.

Author:  the Padma [ Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:38 am ]
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Filippo Morelli wrote:
.,..
Now ... Brazilian Rosewood (Dalbergia Nigra) ... that ONLY comes from Brazil :-D

Filippo



Yo, Flipo,

You sure about that?
me gets it from ebay...cheap too. laughing6-hehe

Author:  Bryan Bear [ Thu Aug 29, 2013 12:28 pm ]
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Tony_in_NYC wrote:
I thought we were devolving the thread to talk about anything from Honduras. I dated a Honduran girl once. She could sing when plucked correctly.


Looks like it's time for another round of everybody's favorite game 'Euphemism or Type-o!'

Author:  Tony_in_NYC [ Thu Aug 29, 2013 5:22 pm ]
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And the winner is??

Author:  Bryan Bear [ Thu Aug 29, 2013 5:44 pm ]
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Everyone wins!

Author:  Joe Beaver [ Thu Aug 29, 2013 7:26 pm ]
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If anyone is interested in Honduran Rosewood you might want to check out A. Hix Tonewood. He has some great looking stuff up on ebay right now. I'd be in the market if my tonewood budget wasn't in such disarray.

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