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Author: | absrec [ Tue Aug 20, 2013 4:18 am ] |
Post subject: | Wood binding - Bending |
I was trying to bend some Peruvian Walnut to use as a binding. However, it did not seem to want to bend. It would get to the point of burning and eventually would make a cracking sound where I was attempting to bend it. Is this stuff difficult to bend? I've bent EI rosewood before and I don't remember it being nearly this difficult. Is there a trick to the grain direction perhaps? |
Author: | Josh H [ Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:14 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Wood binding - Bending |
Are you bending on a pipe or by machine? How thick is your binding? |
Author: | Nils [ Tue Aug 20, 2013 8:19 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Wood binding - Bending |
Ive only tried to use it for back/side wood once...and I had the exact same issue. It just wouldnt bend. I might make a bit of progress, but then it would just snap. Im not sure why. I was bending on a pipe. |
Author: | John A [ Tue Aug 20, 2013 8:24 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Wood binding - Bending |
wrap it in tin foil - so the it retains the moisture and helps you - also use a bending slat or make a bending slat - even if you are using a pipe - that will help. As suggested by Josh - thickness is also important, just as important as having spares to practice on. |
Author: | Goodin [ Tue Aug 20, 2013 8:54 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Wood binding - Bending |
Use fabric softener...should make a huge difference. Here is how I do it...Use a spare pint glass and fill it about 1/3 full fabric softener and 2/3 water. Mix it up good. Use a rag to liberally coat the wood...let it soak in real good then coat it again and start bending. In general the rosewoods will bend easier than walnut/mahogany and associated woods. |
Author: | Tai Fu [ Tue Aug 20, 2013 1:39 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Wood binding - Bending |
It also helps to tape all 4 together and bend it as one unit rather than one at a time. Not only you save lots of time you also avoid a lot of breakage. I was able to bend curly maple in this manner without breaking them. |
Author: | absrec [ Tue Aug 20, 2013 2:58 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Wood binding - Bending |
I'm using a pipe. So, curly maple is difficult to bend as well? Great... That was plan B. |
Author: | absrec [ Tue Aug 20, 2013 3:39 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Wood binding - Bending |
John A wrote: wrap it in tin foil - so the it retains the moisture and helps you - also use a bending slat or make a bending slat - even if you are using a pipe - that will help. As suggested by Josh - thickness is also important, just as important as having spares to practice on. What is a bending slat? |
Author: | truckjohn [ Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:49 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Wood binding - Bending |
My experience with bending Peruvian walnut was... It bends pretty darned easy.... but - I use a side bender machine with a heat blanket sort of setup.... My best luck with Peruvian was to err on the side of more damp rather than less damp... As usual... YMMV... Thanks |
Author: | absrec [ Sat Aug 24, 2013 8:27 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Wood binding - Bending |
I wrapped the bindings in tin foil and that worked much better. It kept the moisture in and kept it from burning. I read after the fact that wrapping it in 2 pieces of foil rather than folding one piece tends to keep the tighter curves round instead of having kinks. Guess I'll try that next time. |
Author: | nickinbruns [ Sat Aug 24, 2013 11:00 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Wood binding - Bending |
Spare pint glass??????? Some people say the strangest things....... ![]() |
Author: | absrec [ Sun Aug 25, 2013 4:38 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Wood binding - Bending |
nickinbruns wrote: Spare pint glass??????? Some people say the strangest things....... ![]() That's what I'm thinking right now. Huh? |
Author: | Goodin [ Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:53 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Wood binding - Bending |
absrec wrote: nickinbruns wrote: Spare pint glass??????? Some people say the strangest things....... ![]() That's what I'm thinking right now. Huh? Lol...ok, in between beers, use your pint glass ![]() |
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