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| Author: | Doug Balzer [ Sun Aug 25, 2013 2:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Looking for a Guitar Estimate Worksheet |
Not wishing to reinvent the wheel, does anyone have a fairly comprehensive guitar estimate worksheet that could be shared here as a template...perhaps in Excel? Thanks ahead of time! Doug |
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| Author: | Chris Pile [ Sun Aug 25, 2013 3:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Looking for a Guitar Estimate Worksheet |
Is this for quotes to a client, or simply for your financial edification? |
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| Author: | Frank Cousins [ Sun Aug 25, 2013 3:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Looking for a Guitar Estimate Worksheet |
A light hearted response... Keep it really simple dude:  1. Wood - typically less than you paid for it, as it was so long ago whne you bought it - you know when you could get a ten sets of QS rio for $100... and you cant remember 2. Hardware and parts - now where was that invoice... 3. Labour - hahahahahaha - work it out, usually comes to about $5 and hour
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| Author: | Doug Balzer [ Sun Aug 25, 2013 3:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Looking for a Guitar Estimate Worksheet |
Chris Pile wrote: Is this for quotes to a client, or simply for your financial edification? Both. |
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| Author: | Frank Cousins [ Sun Aug 25, 2013 3:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Looking for a Guitar Estimate Worksheet |
On a more serious note - I have a VERY simple excel sheet I use, welcome to a copy if you want. |
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| Author: | Nick Royle [ Sun Aug 25, 2013 4:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Looking for a Guitar Estimate Worksheet |
Todd, (or Doug[?]) May I see it, too? I've been working out prices for my #3 but I'd love to see how others (pros) do it. Hope you don't mind me asking. All the best, Nick |
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| Author: | Frank Cousins [ Sun Aug 25, 2013 4:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Looking for a Guitar Estimate Worksheet |
Quick question for Todd: Do you or many others add a 'retail' mark up' ? By that i mean, its relatively straightforward to work out costs or materials and labour - add allowances for disposables such as glues, abrasives and finishing products - add in some calculated cost for overheads such as electricity, heating, humodity controls, (rent), tool allowance etc - all the usual costs + Plus then a labour charge based on a hourly rate... but that only gives you your cost price... with no profit for the buisness? So is there a % or standard mark up to create the selling cost? I may be wrong but suspect that many builders are actually selling at true cost rate (materials, overheads and labour) and forgetting the margin? |
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| Author: | B. Howard [ Sun Aug 25, 2013 5:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Looking for a Guitar Estimate Worksheet |
Your hourly labor rate should be mostly profit. The internet has made mark up on parts very tough. If I can add enough to the actual cost there to justify my time in ordering it I am usually happy. |
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| Author: | Doug Balzer [ Sun Aug 25, 2013 5:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Looking for a Guitar Estimate Worksheet |
Frank Cousins wrote: Quick question for Todd: Do you or many others add a 'retail' mark up' ? By that i mean, its relatively straightforward to work out costs or materials and labour - add allowances for disposables such as glues, abrasives and finishing products - add in some calculated cost for overheads such as electricity, heating, humodity controls, (rent), tool allowance etc - all the usual costs + Plus then a labour charge based on a hourly rate... but that only gives you your cost price... with no profit for the buisness? So is there a % or standard mark up to create the selling cost? I may be wrong but suspect that many builders are actually selling at true cost rate (materials, overheads and labour) and forgetting the margin? I'm new to lutherie but when I built custom furniture I would add material cost, labour rates, taxes, etc and then add 10-15% shop rate. I live in Canada and for six months of the year it costs a lot to keep the shop heated! In that amount I considered things included such as glues, abrasives, blades, but not finishing materials. The customer did not receive this breakdown...it was simply my method of determining my quote. |
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| Author: | PeterF [ Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Looking for a Guitar Estimate Worksheet |
I would be interested in a copy, too. I've made my own, but I'd like to see how others do it and if there's anything I've forgotten. |
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| Author: | Trevor Gore [ Mon Aug 26, 2013 5:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Looking for a Guitar Estimate Worksheet |
Jon Sevy did this time study, available from his website (with lots of other good stuff). Put your own $$$ in, including overheads. |
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| Author: | Doug Balzer [ Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Looking for a Guitar Estimate Worksheet |
Filippo Morelli wrote: Are you talking for sales of new instruments, that is commissions, or are you talking about repair work? They are fairly different in many regards, including how "options "are charged. Filippo Filippo, New builds. What Todd sent is what I was looking for and I can simply add a column for cost of all material, etc.. (THANKS TODD!) But if you have something to share I'm game to continue to learn from the masters  Doug |
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