Does anyone here do neck inlays like this? I've been trying to work out how it's done - obviously you can't use a router. I doubt it's freehand and I'm pretty sure Kevin doesn't use CNC...
Pederson guitar btw.
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| Author: | PeterF [ Tue Aug 27, 2013 4:56 pm ] |
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Does anyone here do neck inlays like this? I've been trying to work out how it's done - obviously you can't use a router. I doubt it's freehand and I'm pretty sure Kevin doesn't use CNC... Pederson guitar btw. |
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| Author: | ZekeM [ Tue Aug 27, 2013 5:25 pm ] |
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Why don't u ask Kevin. He is pretty open when it comes to his building processes |
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| Author: | Kent Wilkinson [ Tue Aug 27, 2013 5:33 pm ] |
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Amazing! |
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| Author: | Alex Kleon [ Tue Aug 27, 2013 5:44 pm ] |
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Wow! You need to play like Jimi to show off that neck!  Alex |
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| Author: | Nick Royle [ Tue Aug 27, 2013 5:51 pm ] |
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You know when artists snap their brushes because they've seen a work they could never hope to equal.... |
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| Author: | Ken Lewis [ Tue Aug 27, 2013 6:39 pm ] |
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Looks like the veneers are first laid up in sheet form and then vacuum clamped to the formed neck. Note the joint orientation in the diamond pattern. Maybe? Ken |
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| Author: | Chris Pile [ Tue Aug 27, 2013 6:48 pm ] |
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Unbelievably gorgeous! |
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| Author: | ZekeM [ Tue Aug 27, 2013 6:49 pm ] |
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Could be really thick and then inlayed and carved down. |
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| Author: | Lavrov Guitars [ Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:01 pm ] |
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ZekeM wrote: Why don't u ask Kevin. He is pretty open when it comes to his building processes Zeke, I've actually asked Kevin a few questions about some of his processes and his answers were very vague and evasive. I don't really remember what I asked but I do remember that I didn't really get much of a response. Maybe I don't know how To ask right 
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| Author: | mkellyvrod [ Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:10 pm ] |
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Regardless of the method, that is one impressive piece of work. Move the bar up another notch or two. |
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| Author: | ZekeM [ Wed Aug 28, 2013 6:41 am ] |
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Hmm anytime I've talked to him he seemed pretty open about things. I've never asked much from him. Especially on something as unique as that neck. Maybe he has some things he just doesn't want to share, who knows. |
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| Author: | Michael.N. [ Wed Aug 28, 2013 7:18 am ] |
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I don't know how that particular one has been done but the traditional method found on Lutes is a marquetry technique. Usually veneers of around 1 mm in thickness and then veneered around the back of the Neck. Some of those can be incredibly fancy. http://www.cybozone.com/fg/images/wilson10.gif |
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| Author: | Dave Stewart [ Wed Aug 28, 2013 7:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Neck inlays |
The image link didn't work for me, but assuming you're talking about the neck in this thread http://www.acousticguitarforum.com/foru ... 37&page=13 .........it sure looks like solids rather than a glued on veneer mat. Interestingly, he showed it to Jim Olson and says "About this neck he said "wow, I never seen anything like that before"...he wondered how I did it. " (so what hope is there for us mere mortals??) 
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| Author: | jfmckenna [ Wed Aug 28, 2013 8:49 am ] |
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That's impressive! |
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| Author: | Michael.N. [ Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:08 am ] |
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Doesn't appear to be solid to me. I don't think it's the usual marquetry technique either. I think it's thin sawn veneers assemble together, tacked on to the Neck, scribed around and then inlaid. Although it seems very difficult it's easier than you think. |
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| Author: | Barry Daniels [ Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:20 am ] |
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Michael.N. wrote: Doesn't appear to be solid to me. I don't think it's the usual marquetry technique either. I think it's thin sawn veneers assemble together, tacked on to the Neck, scribed around and then inlaid. Although it seems very difficult it's easier than you think. Agree with above. A dremel in a base will easily follow the neck curvature. |
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| Author: | Dave Stewart [ Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:32 am ] |
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Barry Daniels wrote: Michael.N. wrote: Doesn't appear to be solid to me. I don't think it's the usual marquetry technique either. I think it's thin sawn veneers assemble together, tacked on to the Neck, scribed around and then inlaid. Although it seems very difficult it's easier than you think. Agree with above. A dremel in a base will easily follow the neck curvature. Yes, me too. (that's really what I meant....solid 3 pc mahog with the diamonds etc inlaid ) |
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| Author: | Rodger Knox [ Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:48 am ] |
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At the risk of exposing a misspent youth, that type of inlay is pretty common on highend pool cues, I suspect that might be a better avenue to search for a technique. Impressive is such an understatement! |
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| Author: | B. Howard [ Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:12 am ] |
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Rodger Knox wrote: At the risk of exposing a misspent youth, that type of inlay is pretty common on highend pool cues, I suspect that might be a better avenue to search for a technique. Impressive is such an understatement! Great observation Rodger. And yes....WOW! |
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| Author: | Joe Beaver [ Wed Aug 28, 2013 1:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Neck inlays |
When I look at it, it seems to me the entire bottom of the neck has been assembled as a inlayed veneer then wrapped around the neck. I'd say make the veneer sheet, super soft it and vacuum it around the neck shaft. I would like to see the heel area. that might tell a story. |
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| Author: | Barry Daniels [ Wed Aug 28, 2013 1:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Neck inlays |
You might think that but you might be wrong. Look at the transition of the neck shaft to the headstock. Wrapping veneer around a complex curve like that is nearly impossible. |
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| Author: | Joe Beaver [ Wed Aug 28, 2013 1:13 pm ] |
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I hear you Barry. It would be way to much for me. The thing that makes me think that is the neck wood looks different on both sides of the purfling lines that go up to the head stock |
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| Author: | jfmckenna [ Wed Aug 28, 2013 1:41 pm ] |
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Joe Beaver wrote: When I look at it, it seems to me the entire bottom of the neck has been assembled as a inlayed veneer then wrapped around the neck. I'd say make the veneer sheet, super soft it and vacuum it around the neck shaft. I would like to see the heel area. that might tell a story. Mr. Stewart linked to more images on another forum above: http://www.acousticguitarforum.com/foru ... 37&page=13 You can clearly see that is not the case there. |
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| Author: | Joe Beaver [ Wed Aug 28, 2013 1:49 pm ] |
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Yep!!! You are right. Looks like it started as a three piece neck and then inlayed from there. |
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| Author: | PeterF [ Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:35 pm ] |
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Thanks for the replys - it looks like I'm not the only one that can't work out whats going on! It is definitely a laminated 3 piece neck and then inlayed over the top. I suspect Michael's suggestion is closest to the mark... |
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