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| Author: | Don Williams [ Sat Sep 28, 2013 1:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Binding Cutter Sets - LMI vs StewMac ? |
Wondering which y'all use and/or prefer. I need to get one or the other, but frankly the price of the StewMac set is much better. Never thought I'd ever say that.... Thanks, Don |
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| Author: | James Orr [ Sat Sep 28, 2013 2:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Binding Cutter Sets - LMI vs StewMac ? |
A few years ago I remember the critical difference being the distance between the bearing and channel. The Stew Mac cutter didn't have as much distance there, so the bearing could slip into the binding channel if you cut it before the purfling channel. Evidently they redesigned it so that it's no longer an issue. Looking at them both online, there doesn't look like much difference between the bearings you get with the basic sets. Stew Mac gives you .040-.200" in .020" increments; LMI gives you .060-.220" in .020" increments. I have the LMI. Back channels are always clean, but the soundboard channels always have a little fuzz. I think that's just the reality of softwood, but I'd love to heard some tips if I'm wrong. |
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| Author: | Arnt Rian [ Sat Sep 28, 2013 3:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Binding Cutter Sets - LMI vs StewMac ? |
James Orr wrote: Back channels are always clean, but the soundboard channels always have a little fuzz. I think that's just the reality of softwood, but I'd love to heard some tips if I'm wrong. Clean and hone the cutter |
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| Author: | Jim Watts [ Sat Sep 28, 2013 3:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Binding Cutter Sets - LMI vs StewMac ? |
Arnt Rian wrote: James Orr wrote: Back channels are always clean, but the soundboard channels always have a little fuzz. I think that's just the reality of softwood, but I'd love to heard some tips if I'm wrong. Clean and hone the cutter and score it with a gramil for super clean cuts. |
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| Author: | Colin North [ Sat Sep 28, 2013 4:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Binding Cutter Sets - LMI vs StewMac ? |
The new SM router bit for binding is 6 degree downcut (unlike the old one which was just a straight bit). LMI one is not much different at 5 degrees downcut. I have both the SM's but still have to use the new one. Probably I'll use the straight for bindings and the downcut for the purfling ledge. Even the straight one was not too bad on the softwoods, as long as I kept it clean and honed. |
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| Author: | Rod True [ Sat Sep 28, 2013 4:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Binding Cutter Sets - LMI vs StewMac ? |
Yup, the new Stew Mac bit is downcut so apples to apples there. I have the new StewMac full set and am happy with it. I'm pretty frugal too so that's why I bought the SM set. |
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| Author: | Don Williams [ Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Binding Cutter Sets - LMI vs StewMac ? |
Yes, I didn't see much difference between the two myself. Certainly, they have all the same combination of sizes, but one goes a bit more shallow and the other a bit deeper with the cuts. |
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| Author: | Alain Moisan [ Sat Sep 28, 2013 7:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Binding Cutter Sets - LMI vs StewMac ? |
Not a highjack so much as a sidetrack question, but I'm wondering if the flush bearing (which wasn't avaiable with the old version of the SM kit that I have) is any different than using a standard flush cut router bit? Any of you guys use it to trim the bindings once glued (which is why I use the flush cut router but). Thanks. |
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| Author: | Alain Moisan [ Sat Sep 28, 2013 8:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Binding Cutter Sets - LMI vs StewMac ? |
Todd Stock wrote: Flush trimming is nice, but I almost always flush before sanding the body, so usually before I even set up the binding cutter. Might be handy for folks with only one trim router in shop, but I keep my old 7310 set up for flush trimming. I was thinking about the end result. Does the binding router bit with the flush bearing gives a better result than a standard 1/2'' flush cutting router bit? |
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| Author: | Don Williams [ Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Binding Cutter Sets - LMI vs StewMac ? |
I ended up getting the set sold by Woodline.com http://www.woodline.com/p-2615-19-pc-lu ... g-set.aspx The price seems good and the bearings also fit the LMI bit. The only thing it doesn't have is the little spacer that the StewMac set has. That can be easily made I think. |
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| Author: | ChuckB [ Mon Sep 30, 2013 5:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Binding Cutter Sets - LMI vs StewMac ? |
My Stew Mac set goes to .210. With the .140 herringbone that I have, it allows .070 binding. Chuck |
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| Author: | Goodin [ Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Binding Cutter Sets - LMI vs StewMac ? |
I have the complete Stew Mac set. The bit is very high quality and cuts clean. I make sure to give it a quick sharpen before each build. Overall I enjoy the set but I am disappointed that it won't cut any deeper than .210. Using thin marquetry purfling with .010 b/w on either side is not an option. I really need .230. Don Williams wrote: I ended up getting the set sold by Woodline.com http://www.woodline.com/p-2615-19-pc-lu ... g-set.aspx The price seems good and the bearings also fit the LMI bit. The only thing it doesn't have is the little spacer that the StewMac set has. That can be easily made I think. Don, how deep of a cut can you make with this set? |
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| Author: | Tai Fu [ Thu Oct 03, 2013 8:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Binding Cutter Sets - LMI vs StewMac ? |
I'm using Luthiertool's binding jig. Takes some skill to use but the spiral downcut bit it came with cuts spruce with absolutely no fuzz! |
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