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| Author: | Ken Mitchell [ Sat Mar 15, 2014 7:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | After Menzerna |
What are folks using after Menzerna Fine and Extra-Fine? I have a variety of products, but can't quite figure out where to go after buffing. TIA, Ken |
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| Author: | bluescreek [ Sat Mar 15, 2014 7:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: After Menzerna |
I use finesse it a 3M product and maquires swirl remover. |
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| Author: | mhammond [ Sat Mar 15, 2014 10:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: After Menzerna |
3M finesse-it is the bomb bomb bomb!!! (That's a triple). I love it so much I bought a gallon, about $125. That's how much I love it. Mikey |
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| Author: | Ken Mitchell [ Sun Mar 16, 2014 6:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: After Menzerna |
Are you guys using a buffing wheel and a portable drill, or are you working by hand? If by hand, what type of pad do you use? Thanx for the input, Ken |
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| Author: | bluescreek [ Sun Mar 16, 2014 7:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: After Menzerna |
buffing wheel for me |
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| Author: | mhammond [ Sun Mar 16, 2014 10:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: After Menzerna |
Air powered mini buffer, an automotive product similar to a standard electric drill except very small and very fast turning. |
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| Author: | Ken Mitchell [ Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: After Menzerna |
I've been killing myself doing this by hand, and HAVE to move on from that!!@#$ I've got an arbor and large buffing wheels for the Menzerna steps. From there I'd like to move inside (from the shop) and use something smaller. I'd picture going to a mini-buffer, and a 3-1/4 or 5" wheel (I guess). What kind of wheel are you guys using? foam? wool? what works best with the liquid 3M products? As for the 3M products themselves, I love them! I'm just killing my arms and hands doing this manually 
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| Author: | Goodin [ Mon Mar 17, 2014 12:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: After Menzerna |
Extra fine seems like overkill to me. After sanding to 1200 or 1500 grit, I take it to the wheel with medium, then sometimes fine, but even fine seems like it's not necessary. I then use Novus 1 wiped on with an old t-shirt. |
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| Author: | mhammond [ Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: After Menzerna |
I use a little maybe 3" yellow foam mop/wheel thingy in my mini buffer. It goes maybe 4 instruments and then needs to be replaced, it just velcros on so its no big deal... Mikey |
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| Author: | PeterF [ Tue Mar 18, 2014 4:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: After Menzerna |
Sorry, kind of off topic, but what do people think of using the angle grinder type buffers instead of a proper fixed buffing wheel? Is it possible to get good results? |
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| Author: | Tai Fu [ Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: After Menzerna |
My concern is those angle grinder spins way too fast, unless you were buffing polyester or glass it would burn through lacquer in a millisecond. |
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| Author: | warmong [ Fri Mar 21, 2014 4:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: After Menzerna |
Tai Fu wrote: My concern is those angle grinder spins way too fast, unless you were buffing polyester or glass it would burn through lacquer in a millisecond. I don't mean to speak on behalf of PeterF, but I believe he is talking about the buffing machines used in the automotive business, which kind of look like an angle grinder, but spin at a much slower speed. |
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| Author: | Tai Fu [ Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: After Menzerna |
I have seen videos of Fender using them... but I think they are designed for liquid compound rather than buffing sticks. |
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| Author: | PeterF [ Fri Mar 21, 2014 6:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: After Menzerna |
warmong wrote: Tai Fu wrote: My concern is those angle grinder spins way too fast, unless you were buffing polyester or glass it would burn through lacquer in a millisecond. I don't mean to speak on behalf of PeterF, but I believe he is talking about the buffing machines used in the automotive business, which kind of look like an angle grinder, but spin at a much slower speed. I was talking about something like this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/301113160823? ... EBIDX%3AIT I've never done any power buffing before and don't really have a clue. I'd be using it on varnish, not lacquer. Don't know if that would make a difference. I just can't afford a full buffing wheel setup right now and am looking into alternatives. |
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