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| Author: | Ken Lewis [ Sun Oct 11, 2015 6:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Safe-T-Planer |
I've never really wanted one of these until you couldn't buy them anymore. Useful for tapering necks as well as other tasks I'm sure. Looks like Stew-Mac is having them produced again. I might have to get me one. You all may be interested as well. Or not. My TAS and WAS is acting up,... again. ( Bad when the loonie is gone for a chit  )http://www.stewmac.com/Luthier_Tools/Ty ... laner.html Ken |
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| Author: | tysam [ Sun Oct 11, 2015 6:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Safe-T-Planer |
I picked up a copy of the Wagner on Ebay about 7 months ago and it seems to be as good for tapering as the original. I think it cost me about 50.00 canadian when I got it ( and shipping). |
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| Author: | Alex Kleon [ Sun Oct 11, 2015 8:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Safe-T-Planer |
I've got one of the copies as well. Works fine, but don't know how it compares to the original. Alex |
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| Author: | Mark Fogleman [ Sun Oct 11, 2015 8:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Safe-T-Planer |
Another option is this: http://woodworker.com/drill-press-planer-mssu-24760.asp?search=drill%20press%20planer&searchmode=2 $50 at Woodworker's Supply. |
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| Author: | Alex Kleon [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 12:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Safe-T-Planer |
Mark Fogleman wrote: Another option is this: http://woodworker.com/drill-press-planer-mssu-24760.asp?search=drill%20press%20planer&searchmode=2 $50 at Woodworker's Supply. Thats the one I bought a couple of years ago. Alex |
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| Author: | Colin North [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Safe-T-Planer |
SM cutters won't fit the Wagners, just in case anyone else was wondering... |
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| Author: | Mike OMelia [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 2:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Safe-T-Planer |
Did not even know SM sold a version of that tool! I just might get that one. |
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| Author: | dzsmith [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Safe-T-Planer |
Dang, I don't have a heavy duty 1/2" drill press. Look's like a useful tool. |
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| Author: | hermit [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Safe-T-Planer |
dzsmith wrote: Dang, I don't have a heavy duty 1/2" drill press. Drill presses aren't really made to be used for milling but probably shallow wood cuts aren't too hard on it. The difference is the drill isn't set up to take side pressure. A mortising bit in a smaller drill press might do the same thing.
Look's like a useful tool. |
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| Author: | Mike OMelia [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Safe-T-Planer |
I agree. This topic of side load always comes up when discussing the Safe-T planer and that rosette routing thing. I owned and used that rosette jig just once. Scared the crap out of me. Yet, I've never heard of anyone saying their drill press dropped the quill when using the planer. It looks useful to me. Just so long as there are no sensations of mass imbalance like that rosette jig. |
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| Author: | Pmaj7 [ Tue Oct 13, 2015 1:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Safe-T-Planer |
Mike O'Melia wrote: Just so long as there are no sensations of mass imbalance like that rosette jig. Which one? |
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| Author: | iain russell [ Tue Oct 13, 2015 4:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Safe-T-Planer |
Mike O'Melia wrote: Yet, I've never heard of anyone saying their drill press dropped the quill when using the planer. It looks useful to me. I've had it happen several times. Now I'm a bit cautious when taking passes near the final depth. |
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| Author: | dofthesea [ Tue Oct 13, 2015 10:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Safe-T-Planer |
The original is the best unit. You can find them used on eBay quite often. I bought 3 about 6 months ago all with in 1 week on eBay. |
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| Author: | Mike OMelia [ Tue Oct 13, 2015 11:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Safe-T-Planer |
My rosette cutter was a common design, cannot remember the name. I sold it. Went to Wells-Carol jig, then Bishop Cocharan. There's no comparison. I once used my drill press as a buffer... Fairly effective! These days I just use it to drill holes. |
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| Author: | Mark Fogleman [ Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Safe-T-Planer |
hermit wrote: dzsmith wrote: Dang, I don't have a heavy duty 1/2" drill press. Drill presses aren't really made to be used for milling but probably shallow wood cuts aren't too hard on it. The difference is the drill isn't set up to take side pressure. A mortising bit in a smaller drill press might do the same thing.Look's like a useful tool. You're really not putting much of a side load on the quill taking 1/64' off with the front edge of the cutter. You should have the workpiece angled a the height of a few pieces of masking tape on the upstream side of the drill press table. |
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| Author: | Pmaj7 [ Thu Oct 15, 2015 6:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Safe-T-Planer |
Mike O'Melia wrote: My rosette cutter was a common design, cannot remember the name. I sold it. Went to Wells-Carol jig, then Bishop Cocharan. There's no comparison. I once used my drill press as a buffer... Fairly effective! These days I just use it to drill holes. Do you mean a circle cutter or fly cutter? The only rosette cutters I've seen are the lmi and luthiertools. |
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| Author: | cbrviking [ Fri Oct 16, 2015 10:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Safe-T-Planer |
Side question - I have a Harbor Freight speed control on my CNC machine. If I slow the router WAY down, an I use the Safe-T-Plane on it? |
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| Author: | jack [ Fri Oct 16, 2015 11:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Safe-T-Planer |
Not a good idea..... |
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| Author: | Mark Fogleman [ Fri Oct 16, 2015 1:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Safe-T-Planer |
cbrviking wrote: Side question - I have a Harbor Freight speed control on my CNC machine. If I slow the router WAY down, an I use the Safe-T-Plane on it? You would be better off using a wide Bowl bit on your router. |
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| Author: | cbrviking [ Fri Oct 16, 2015 1:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Safe-T-Planer |
Mark Fogleman wrote: cbrviking wrote: Side question - I have a Harbor Freight speed control on my CNC machine. If I slow the router WAY down, an I use the Safe-T-Plane on it? You would be better off using a wide Bowl bit on your router. I suppose, but I have the Safe-T-Plane. |
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| Author: | Mark Fogleman [ Fri Oct 16, 2015 8:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Safe-T-Planer |
Robert O'Brien did a YouTube on the Safe-T-Planer a few years back. It shows how to prepare the drill press table, use it and dress the bits. |
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| Author: | Robbie O'Brien [ Sun Oct 18, 2015 7:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Safe-T-Planer |
Mark Fogleman wrote: Robert O'Brien did a YouTube on the Safe-T-Planer a few years back. It shows how to prepare the drill press table, use it and dress the bits. Wow! That was one of my early ones done almost 8 years ago. I remember after doing that video I started receiving a bunch of emails with pics of jigs that people had made for using the safe-t-plane. They ranged from a simple version like I show in the video to very elaborate ones with hold down rollers and bearings and dust ports etc. One was even made of rosewood and finished very nicely. |
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