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| Author: | dertien616 [ Tue Mar 08, 2016 11:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | First time finishing? |
Just going to start getting the supplies for finishing my first guitar. I was going to order z-poxy and cardinal lacquer and thinner from lmii. I will be spraying threw an hvlp gun. Do I need a sealer to or is the z-poxy used as the pore filler And sealer. Also I seen on there website you should do a coat of unwaxed shellac between the z-poxy and top coat. So I'm a little confused on what steps I should take and products I will all need. |
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| Author: | B. Howard [ Wed Mar 09, 2016 7:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: First time finishing? |
The z-poxy can be a sealer as well as a filler. Depends on how you use it. If you leave a thin coat covering all the wood it will act as a sealer. If you sand it back so it just fills the pores you will need the sealer that goes with the cardinal lacquer. |
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| Author: | dertien616 [ Wed Mar 09, 2016 12:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: First time finishing? |
Should I do a coat of shellac between the z poxy and lacquer? |
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| Author: | Joe Beaver [ Wed Mar 09, 2016 8:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: First time finishing? |
No shellac between zpoxy and cardinal for me. I do use their vinyl sealer over the zpoxy but when I did a test panel I really couldn't see much difference. I'm thinkling shellac would be a mistake. |
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| Author: | Ben-Had [ Wed Mar 09, 2016 11:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: First time finishing? |
I use all the Cardinal products -pore filler, sealer, nitro and thinner when necessary. I spray sealer, pore fill, seal, then apply the nitro. I thin my sealer 50/50. |
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| Author: | kencierp [ Thu Mar 10, 2016 9:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: First time finishing? |
Quote: Should I do a coat of shellac between the z poxy and lacquer? I'd check with Pacer (maker's of Zpoxy) before using shellac on or under Zpoxy there are reports of problems. On the other hand I have personally contacted them regarding nitro lacquer and it is fully compatible as the nitro will etch and chemically bond --- so there is really no need for shellac at all. Since the nitro vinyl sealers have the same solvents as the top coats I am sure they would work fine as a "tweener" -- but again really not necessary. Some feel the added flexibility in the vinyl sealer has long term benefits. |
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