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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 7:28 pm 
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Smh to what the difference is between the 2 hanging systems are... just the different tip size I guess?


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 7:48 pm 
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It's not a bad idea to look past your immediate needs. You might save a couple hundred dollars in the short term, but if your needs change in the near future, there might be a dollar loss when you decide to upgrade. The bonus of buying higher end comes if you decide to sell.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 8:34 pm 
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Alex Kleon wrote:
It's not a bad idea to look past your immediate needs. You might save a couple hundred dollars in the short term, but if your needs change in the near future, there might be a dollar loss when you decide to upgrade. The bonus of buying higher end comes if you decide to sell.

Alex

I get that too:) and true.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 8:38 pm 
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The above systems seem as they would be fine for 3-4 Guitars a year, but as I’m gaining experience I’m building .... slower:/ not sure why ha. Realistically I’m simply a hobby builder... might I sell an instrument one day? I’d like too, but Just to keep building really... at least that’s all I can see right now.
That said... I do try and get decent tools. As with everything else it CAN be done with less, when more experience is gained. However, when good equipment meets with good experience the results generally beat out poor equipment + experience.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 9:41 pm 
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The Fuji is a great system. Even the noisy ones. No louder than a shop vac. Get headphones if the noise is in a range that affects you. I love mine. It’s noisy, but not that bad.



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 8:05 am 
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I had seen that I’ll need to procure a 1mm needle set, correct? Sorry still educating myself on the terminology of this brave new world

And... as far as gravity feed vs hangin can goes.. is it simply a matter of being able to fit the gun into tight places... or is there a more of a difference than I’m uncovering upon initial research?


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 8:33 am 
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Gravity guns (really gravity feed/pressure assisted) are easier to clean, easier to and less messy to fill and drain, avoid the spitting and bad behavior of cup guns as the feed tube covers/uncovers with finish.

On the Semi-Pro 2 versus Hobby Pro 2, it appears as though the difference is the aircap set is intended for lacquer and other clear finishes on the Semi-Pro (1.3mm aircap/tip/needle set) and latex or enamels and other thicker finishes with the Hobby Pro (1.8mm aircap/tip/needle set).

Given the lack of any price difference, the Semi-Pro 2 Gravity kit looks like the best option of those three - the gravity gun has the advantages noted above, and the system should handle clear guitar finishes. The 1.3mm tip set should work well for lacquers, although EnduroVar and other waterbornes call for a 1mm set.

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Another plus of the gravity gun, perhaps mentioned already in the thread, is that the cup orientation can be changed or rotated. This enables me to spray my finish directly down at an angle of about 90 degrees on to a horizontal top or back, but also to work my way around the sides.
Am I allowed to call it "spit-roast" spraying? oops_sign

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 11:08 am 
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SnowManSnow wrote:
Hey guys.
Looking for a turbine system for nitro in 2018. Only a few guitars a year.
Thoughts on this?
https://www.thepaintstore.com/Earlex_Sp ... gItgPD_BwE




So I'm looking for a better finishing system (StewMac HVLP Conversion Jam Gun and Nailer Compressor 3.2 CFM).
What did you end up going with?

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 4:27 pm 
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Kbore wrote:
SnowManSnow wrote:
Hey guys.
Looking for a turbine system for nitro in 2018. Only a few guitars a year.
Thoughts on this?
https://www.thepaintstore.com/Earlex_Sp ... gItgPD_BwE




So I'm looking for a better finishing system (StewMac HVLP Conversion Jam Gun and Nailer Compressor 3.2 CFM).
What did you end up going with?

Well to be honest i use a small harbor freight pancake compressor and harbor freight 25$ jam gun.
I got the idea from the video that Jay Lichty did on EM6000
It works decent. I’m certain a problem setup would work mire excellent, but with a little leveling it works fine .
Take it over to the stewmac buffer and it makes for a nice finish


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 2:25 pm 
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SnowMan,
I'll have to try a harbor freight jam gun. Probably the same factory that made my
TCP Global Mini Touch-Up HVLP Spray Gun with 1.0mm Fluid Tip and Plastic Cup, and the ScrewMac gun I have. THey perform equally well. THe biggest Ahh-haaaa I've had in finishing was replacing my 50 ft stiff, craftsman air hose with a 25' green supple air hose. Major difference in fan size. THat small hose, with my small compressor was starving the gun of air volume.

I was considering the FUJI Pro-2 but with this year's finishing behind me, finishing systmes are longer a priority... ha!

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 2:33 pm 
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I have the fuji and you can convert it both ways. I prefer it on the bottom. I have it often for weeks without cleaning just use it then blow thinner through it and let it hang. Love this thing . I did change to the 1.0 mm needle
does a great job

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 4:09 pm 
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Kbore wrote:
SnowMan,
I'll have to try a harbor freight jam gun. Probably the same factory that made my
TCP Global Mini Touch-Up HVLP Spray Gun with 1.0mm Fluid Tip and Plastic Cup, and the ScrewMac gun I have. THey perform equally well. THe biggest Ahh-haaaa I've had in finishing was replacing my 50 ft stiff, craftsman air hose with a 25' green supple air hose. Major difference in fan size. THat small hose, with my small compressor was starving the gun of air volume.

I was considering the FUJI Pro-2 but with this year's finishing behind me, finishing systmes are longer a priority... ha!


a 3/8" minimum air hose is required for spraying in my book...the amount of air lost due to friction in a 1/4" hose is sickening...and as short of a hose as is possible...


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