To each his own, this falls under nuthin to do and all day to do it
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| Author: | JSDenvir [ Thu Feb 01, 2018 8:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Extreme nut filing |
Just looking at pictures of a beautiful guitar from Michi Matsuda. I think this is common with Somogyi and his apprentices, but the nut is filed _between_ the actual nut slots. So the depression between the strings is lower than the actual nut slots. I have no idea what the rationale for this might be. It can’t possibly be weight. 10s of 1000s of ozs? Is it just aesthetics? Enquiring minds need to know. Thanks Steve |
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| Author: | J De Rocher [ Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Extreme nut filing |
Are you talking about something like a scalloped nut? I used to have a PRS like the one below that had a scalloped nut. Besides looking interesting, the rationale as I understand it is that, supposedly, the string vibrations are directed downward and not dissipated to the sides. Attachment: PRS scalloped nut.jpg
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| Author: | JSDenvir [ Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Extreme nut filing |
Thanks Jay, but appreciably more pronounced than that. With more meat on either side of the string. Steve |
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| Author: | Glen H [ Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Extreme nut filing |
To each his own. Just doesn’t work for me... |
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| Author: | Tim Mullin [ Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Extreme nut filing |
I think this is fairly common on European-made classicals. One of my clients has a French-made instrument. I always figured it was a style thing, as it’s not so easy to make it look perfect. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk |
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| Author: | dofthesea [ Thu Feb 01, 2018 10:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Extreme nut filing |
It appears that a lot of what Michi does besides being incredibly innovative is he has a flair for atypical aesthetics. |
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| Author: | Hesh [ Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Extreme nut filing |
It's aesthetic with as mentioned a European tradition. Doesn't work for me either. |
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| Author: | Pmaj7 [ Fri Feb 02, 2018 2:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Extreme nut filing |
J De Rocher wrote: Are you talking about something like a scalloped nut? I used to have a PRS like the one below that had a scalloped nut. Besides looking interesting, the rationale as I understand it is that, supposedly, the string vibrations are directed downward and not dissipated to the sides. This is the only one I've ever seen that has appealed to me.
Attachment: PRS scalloped nut.jpg |
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| Author: | Clinchriver [ Fri Feb 02, 2018 6:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Extreme nut filing |
To each his own, this falls under nuthin to do and all day to do it
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| Author: | Clay S. [ Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Extreme nut filing |
"To each his own, this falls under nuthin to do and all day to do it" Kind of like fancy rosettes, purflings, carved pegheads, and a myriad of other things we do as luthiers.  I've seen a few scalloped nuts that looked pretty nice. The one Jay pictured not being one of them - it looks like it could be easily chipped because of the fine points. As to the rationale offered, I think that is an aesthetic looking for a raison d'etre. |
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| Author: | Chris Pile [ Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Extreme nut filing |
Back in the 80's I had a client ask me to do that with the brass nut I made for his Les Paul Custom. Of course, with bell brass... the longer you work on it, the harder it gets. That rat tail file got a workout, I'm telling ya. |
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| Author: | bcombs510 [ Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Extreme nut filing |
Looks like a bottle cap or a wavy lays potato chip. To each their own. 
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| Author: | TonyKarol [ Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Extreme nut filing |
Vibrations are directed downward, not sideways ... riiiiight .. but only for open strings, which tend to sustain longer than fretted notes anyway ...hmmm ... yeah, not likely in my shop .... |
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| Author: | meddlingfool [ Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Extreme nut filing |
You're not suggesting that luthiers just say stuff, are you? |
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| Author: | J De Rocher [ Fri Feb 02, 2018 5:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Extreme nut filing |
meddlingfool wrote: You're not suggesting that luthiers just say stuff, are you? Inconceivable! |
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| Author: | TonyKarol [ Fri Feb 02, 2018 6:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Extreme nut filing |
who me !!! .. never .... I will tell you this though .. a few years back, a high up marketing guy at Taylor who shall remain nameless sent out letters to their dealers, telling them that they should NOT start selling high end boutique guitars, until they were selling about 30 or 40 Taylors a month - I was at a small shop that was selling mine and a couple other local builders guitars, as well as Taylors .. the shop owner and I had a good laugh at that one .... the nerve ... |
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| Author: | meddlingfool [ Fri Feb 02, 2018 6:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Extreme nut filing |
Taylor wants to take over the universe. |
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| Author: | Barry Daniels [ Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Extreme nut filing |
meddlingfool wrote: Taylor wants to take over the universe. That's what happens when a company gets big enough to hire marketing types. It's happened to about every place I have ever worked. |
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| Author: | Clay S. [ Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Extreme nut filing |
Market Share is an oxymoron. 
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