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Author: | johnparchem [ Sat Jun 02, 2018 3:06 pm ] |
Post subject: | 8 String bocote nylon string crossover guitar |
I am ready to start cleanup and finish prep on this Bocote\Lutz spruce 8 string crossover commision. The 2 extra strings will be bass strings. I will have to play to see how low to go. The player would like to go down in fourths from the low E. I know I can make the 7th string a D and the 8 string an A and have it sound good with still useful strings. I started with the Gore medium size guitar and adjusted it for 8 nylon strings. The guitar has a 14 fret join, so I made the scale 660 mm to push the saddle down a bit. The neck has close to steel string spacing on a 55 mm nut and typical classical spacing on the bridge. The guitar will be played more like a lead guitar (thus the 14 fret join) than a classical. The player wanted the nylon string sound. It certainly is a somewhat unique instrument. I am interested to hear what it sounds like. I will install a K&K pure pickup, as it will be used in performances. |
Author: | J De Rocher [ Sat Jun 02, 2018 3:37 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 8 String bocote nylon string crossover guitar |
Very , very cool! |
Author: | bcombs510 [ Sat Jun 02, 2018 3:52 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 8 String bocote nylon string crossover guitar |
Yeah, that looks great. I love Bocote, even the smell. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Author: | Tim L [ Sat Jun 02, 2018 3:58 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 8 String bocote nylon string crossover guitar |
That looks like a fun one |
Author: | Colin North [ Sun Jun 03, 2018 9:29 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 8 String bocote nylon string crossover guitar |
Nice John, I like the softer cutaway shaping for that body shape, and of course, the woods. |
Author: | Clay S. [ Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:36 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 8 String bocote nylon string crossover guitar |
For your extra base strings you can use harp guitar nylon sub bases. You can buy singles at Harpguitarmusic.com. They show them as thick as .080 inches. |
Author: | Haans [ Sun Jun 03, 2018 5:02 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 8 String bocote nylon string crossover guitar |
Very nice looking! I like the straight grain ribs too. Is that a classical rosette? |
Author: | johnparchem [ Sun Jun 03, 2018 8:05 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 8 String bocote nylon string crossover guitar |
Thanks all for the kind words and thank you Clay for the information on harp guitar strings, I never thought of them. Hans thank you, My rosette is walnut surrounded with rope binding. |
Author: | Clay S. [ Sun Jun 03, 2018 8:55 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 8 String bocote nylon string crossover guitar |
Hi John, Where did you find the rope binding? In the past I have made it by slicing herringbone down the middle and adding a couple lines to the edge. |
Author: | johnparchem [ Sun Jun 03, 2018 9:18 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 8 String bocote nylon string crossover guitar |
Clay S. wrote: Hi John, Where did you find the rope binding? In the past I have made it by slicing herringbone down the middle and adding a couple lines to the edge. I think out of a reject pile at Gurian Instruments' barge. They host a lot of Seattle Luthier Group meetings. |
Author: | J De Rocher [ Sun Jun 03, 2018 9:45 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 8 String bocote nylon string crossover guitar |
Clay - LMI sells this (which may come from Gurian): http://www.lmii.com/products/mostly-woo ... y-purfling SKU# PFMQ4 LMI calls it diagonal check instead of rope but it looks to be the same design. I used it around the top of my last guitar and I like how it looks. |
Author: | rlrhett [ Mon Jun 04, 2018 9:05 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 8 String bocote nylon string crossover guitar |
Congratulations on your build. I had a potential client ask for an eight string guitar a few months ago, but I refused. You are more adventurous than I. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
Author: | johnparchem [ Thu Jul 05, 2018 3:29 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 8 String bocote nylon string crossover guitar |
It has been awhile but she is all strung up. I still need a proper set up but she sounds good. Currently I am using .050" and .060" Nylon core silver wound strings for the sub base. They sound good tuned to a D and a B. I have ordered .054" and .064" strings to try and see if I could go down in 4ths from the E to B and F#. The finish on the body is post cat Royal Lac on system 3 silvertip epoxy pore fill and seal lac. The neck has a gluboost fit and finish CA pore fill -> seal lac - wiped on Royal Lac. |
Author: | Jules [ Thu Jul 05, 2018 3:36 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 8 String bocote nylon string crossover guitar |
Gorgeous guitar, John! I love the way the black binding works with the bocote. Really makes the wood stand out. |
Author: | Clay S. [ Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:08 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 8 String bocote nylon string crossover guitar |
Very nice! very nice! All the elements look very harmonious. The shape of the peghead goes very well with the shape of the upper bout. I glued up a set of lauro preto a couple of years ago. I think it's a cousin to bocote. Your guitar may inspire me to finally build with it. |
Author: | jfmckenna [ Fri Jul 06, 2018 1:23 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 8 String bocote nylon string crossover guitar |
NIce! I love Bacote too, first guitar I ever built I used it. Looks great. I used Royal Lac on one of my last guitars and it seems promising. Did you brush or pad it on? |
Author: | Michaeldc [ Fri Jul 06, 2018 1:42 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 8 String bocote nylon string crossover guitar |
Very nice, John! Hopefully I'll be able to stop by your place and give it a go before you hand it off to its new owner. Cheers, M |
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