Official Luthiers Forum!

Owned and operated by Lance Kragenbrink
It is currently Fri Mar 29, 2024 6:47 am


All times are UTC - 5 hours


Forum rules


Be nice, no cussin and enjoy!




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 22 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: Cases..
PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:31 am 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Sun Feb 27, 2005 10:11 am
Posts: 2142
I am trying to find a case for a "special" guitar I just built.

I am trying to stay under $400.

This guitar is very close to a 14 fret triple O/OM and will fit in that size standard case....

I have been using the TKL top line cases-but am trying to get something nicer for this guitar.

I have been paying $139 for the arched top/flat back and $199. for the arched top/arched back cases

The base price for the Cedar Creek case is $300. They are 5 ply (heavier) and have nicer interiors, latches than the TKL's

What are you guys using?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cases..
PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:29 am 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Thu May 12, 2005 5:46 am
Posts: 2931
Location: United States
Have you considered Hiscox cases.

_________________
Jim Watts
http://jameswattsguitars.com


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cases..
PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:52 am 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood

Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2010 1:46 pm
Posts: 2124
First name: Freeman
Last Name: Keller
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
I have had Cedar Creek build custom cases for three guitars - they are beautifully made, expensive and long delivery. Highly recommended.

Image

Image

Both of these guitars have tailpieces, Cedar Creek made little indentations in the case to fit. The tricone has a funky coverplate, the case fits perfectly. Ditto the long scale 12 string neck.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cases..
PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 1:55 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jun 22, 2014 1:45 pm
Posts: 1445
First name: Michael
Last Name: Colbert
City: Anacortes
State: WA
Focus: Build
I'm buying Stage 3 cases from Access cases for $69.00 plus tax. It helps that I'm about 35 minutes away from where they are based. They certainly aren't the best cases out there but the interiors are very plush and you can't beat the price... https://www.accessbagsandcases.com/prod ... ree-cases/

PS you will need an EIN number...


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cases..
PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 3:58 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 09, 2006 2:35 pm
Posts: 2951
Location: United States
First name: Joe
Last Name: Beaver
City: Lake Forest
State: California
Focus: Build
I currently offer Ameritage custom cases, plus TKL and Access stock cases. It sounds like Ameritage would be what you are after. With them I use the Silver series. They come in around $300. I think they will do the Gold series for less than $400. That is for a custom case made to fit your guitars and you also get to pick your own materials (color mostly). The cases are heavy but well made.

I haven't used the TKL top of line cases so I don't know how the Ameritage would compare. Perhaps others have.

And I should add that with the Ameritage, they will put your logo, embroidered on the case for a few dollars more.

_________________
Joe Beaver
Maker of Sawdust


Last edited by Joe Beaver on Fri Aug 31, 2018 4:03 pm, edited 2 times in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cases..
PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 3:59 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:33 am
Posts: 1831
First name: Willard
Last Name: Guthrie
City: Cumberland
State: Maryland 21502
Zip/Postal Code: 21502
Country: United State
Focus: Repair
Status: Semi-pro
We send new guitars out in Hiscox Pro 2 and Artist cases...usually about $230 in black for the Pro 2 and $465 for the Artist with a coupon from MF (no shipping or tax, and case is here in 2-3 days; add $40 for cream exterior shell).

Fit is not an issue, as the contouring at the waist which restricts use of most cases is absent in the Hiscox. Light weight (10.5 and 11.5 pounds, respectively), great thermal stability, and wide range of fits for each case design. From what we've seen:

Dreadnought: typically handles 12 fret, 14 fret, 12 string 12 and 14 fret, small jumbo and some of the deeper body grand auditoriums, as well as square and round shouldered Gibson jumbos

000: handles 12 and 14 fret 000 (the shots are of a 12 fret 000 (long scale), OM cutaway, and 00-18 Golden Era (short scale)...all fit nicely.

The three classical sizes handle the L-00 and 00 family, as well as the smaller and concert size classicals.

Attachment:
12_Fret_000_pro2.jpg


Attachment:
OMC_pro2.jpg


Attachment:
00018GE_pro2.jpg


We also like Hoffee, Calton, and BAM, although for a cost-effective flight case, the Hiscox Artist is very hard to beat.


You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

_________________
We have become a civilization that elevates idiots, prostitutes, and clowns. Am I still to defend it? Yes, for its principles. Yes, for what it was. Yes, for what it still may be.

-Mark Helprin, The Oceans and the Stars: A Sea Story, A War Story, A Love Story (A Novel)



These users thanked the author Woodie G for the post: SteveSmith (Fri Aug 31, 2018 6:29 pm)
Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cases..
PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 4:43 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Thu May 12, 2005 5:46 am
Posts: 2931
Location: United States
I should add that I feel comfortable shipping guitars in Hiscox cases. Well as comfortable as one can!

_________________
Jim Watts
http://jameswattsguitars.com


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cases..
PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 6:29 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Wed Oct 08, 2008 11:36 am
Posts: 7241
Location: Southeast US
City: Lenoir City
State: TN
Zip/Postal Code: 37772
Country: US
Focus: Repair
Woodie G wrote:
We send new guitars out in Hiscox Pro 2 and Artist cases...usually about $230 in black for the Pro 2 and $465 for the Artist with a coupon from MF (no shipping or tax, and case is here in 2-3 days; add $40 for cream exterior shell).

Fit is not an issue, as the contouring at the waist which restricts use of most cases is absent in the Hiscox. Light weight (10.5 and 11.5 pounds, respectively), great thermal stability, and wide range of fits for each case design. From what we've seen:

Dreadnought: typically handles 12 fret, 14 fret, 12 string 12 and 14 fret, small jumbo and some of the deeper body grand auditoriums, as well as square and round shouldered Gibson jumbos

000: handles 12 and 14 fret 000 (the shots are of a 12 fret 000 (long scale), OM cutaway, and 00-18 Golden Era (short scale)...all fit nicely.

The three classical sizes handle the L-00 and 00 family, as well as the smaller and concert size classicals.

We also like Hoffee, Calton, and BAM, although for a cost-effective flight case, the Hiscox Artist is very hard to beat.


Do you provide any kind of humidity control in the case with your guitars?

_________________
Steve Smith
"Music is what feelings sound like"


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cases..
PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 8:30 pm 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Sun Feb 27, 2005 10:11 am
Posts: 2142
Woodie G wrote:
We send new guitars out in Hiscox Pro 2 and Artist cases...usually about $230 in black for the Pro 2 and $465 for the Artist with a coupon from MF (no shipping or tax, and case is here in 2-3 days; add $40 for cream exterior shell).

Fit is not an issue, as the contouring at the waist which restricts use of most cases is absent in the Hiscox. Light weight (10.5 and 11.5 pounds, respectively), great thermal stability, and wide range of fits for each case design. From what we've seen:

Dreadnought: typically handles 12 fret, 14 fret, 12 string 12 and 14 fret, small jumbo and some of the deeper body grand auditoriums, as well as square and round shouldered Gibson jumbos

000: handles 12 and 14 fret 000 (the shots are of a 12 fret 000 (long scale), OM cutaway, and 00-18 Golden Era (short scale)...all fit nicely.

The three classical sizes handle the L-00 and 00 family, as well as the smaller and concert size classicals.

Attachment:
12_Fret_000_pro2.jpg


Attachment:
OMC_pro2.jpg


Attachment:
00018GE_pro2.jpg


We also like Hoffee, Calton, and BAM, although for a cost-effective flight case, the Hiscox Artist is very hard to beat.


Hi Woodie,

I like a lot of things about the Hiscox cases, especially that they are lightweight.

Where do you buy them?

What is " a coupon from MF?

Thanks for the help!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cases..
PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:22 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:33 am
Posts: 1831
First name: Willard
Last Name: Guthrie
City: Cumberland
State: Maryland 21502
Zip/Postal Code: 21502
Country: United State
Focus: Repair
Status: Semi-pro
We deliver all new guitars with Hiscox or upgrade case, Oasis humidifier with refill kit, Fender Premium Plush guitar cloth, a spare set of strings, and guitar cleaner/polish...mostly because there is then absolutely no excuse not to humidify per instructions, wipe down after play, clean lacquer-finished instruments, and put a fresh set of strings on the guitar.

Musicians Friend offers most common sizes in black and cream...use LABORDAY for 15% off, or join their Backstage Pass program and watch for additional savings coupons..we usually wait until a 'make your own sale' 20% coupons shows up and place a case order. Unlike most other US Hiscox vendors, MF does not charge shipping or sale tax in most states, so that is about $50 in additional savings. The cream case color runs about $50 more before discounts, but is a fairly distinctive-looking case without weighing a lot, and it certainly stands out at a festival when it comes time to grab and go.

_________________
We have become a civilization that elevates idiots, prostitutes, and clowns. Am I still to defend it? Yes, for its principles. Yes, for what it was. Yes, for what it still may be.

-Mark Helprin, The Oceans and the Stars: A Sea Story, A War Story, A Love Story (A Novel)


Last edited by Woodie G on Sat Sep 01, 2018 5:50 am, edited 1 time in total.


These users thanked the author Woodie G for the post: SteveSmith (Sat Sep 01, 2018 3:01 pm)
Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cases..
PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:45 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Wed Aug 12, 2009 1:13 am
Posts: 442
First name: Tim
Last Name: Allen
City: San Francisco
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
+1 on Hiscox cases.

_________________
Tim Allen
"Never hurry, never rest."


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cases..
PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2018 10:18 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa

Joined: Tue Jan 18, 2005 11:36 am
Posts: 1595
State: ON
Country: Canada
Status: Professional
Another plug for Hiscox. You won't find anything else in the same price range that offers the level of protection that Hiscox does. I use the Pro-II series as the stock cases for my guitars. Ameritage cases are great quality, but heavy!

_________________
Josh House

Canadian Luthier Supply
http://www.canadianluthiersupply.com
https://www.facebook.com/canadianluthiersupply?ref=hl
House Guitars - Custom Built Acoustic Instruments.
http://www.houseguitars.com


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cases..
PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2018 7:13 am 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood

Joined: Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:21 am
Posts: 4839
Location: Central PA
First name: john
Last Name: hall
City: Hegins
State: pa
Zip/Postal Code: 17938
Country: usa
Focus: Build
Status: Professional
hiscox
custom pearl
518-483-7685
best price in the USA

_________________
John Hall
blues creek guitars
Authorized CF Martin Repair
Co President of ASIA
You Don't know what you don't know until you know it


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cases..
PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 5:10 pm 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood

Joined: Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:34 am
Posts: 3081
I'll side with Freeman. Always preferred a traditional case to the cheap Martin style case, and the Cedar Creek cases are about the best even though they are heavy. Liked the crushed green interior, myself. Superior cases were good too.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cases..
PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:21 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:33 am
Posts: 1831
First name: Willard
Last Name: Guthrie
City: Cumberland
State: Maryland 21502
Zip/Postal Code: 21502
Country: United State
Focus: Repair
Status: Semi-pro
One thing we see on a frequent basis is failed/missing/broken handles and hinges...a case that uses heavy duty industry standard luggage fittings makes repairs a little easier for frequent flyers. The worst we've seen are the Gieb-style handles (i.e., the sewn cover/internal steel strap version) on higher end Martin (TKL-made)), some Cedar Creek, and Taylor cases - we've seen complete failures in less than three months of touring. Handles and latches that appear to have come off higher-end composite luggage are what works when your cases have to punch a time clock. When presented with a choice between the $300 Martin vintage Geib-type case and a $240 Hiscox, it becomes a choice between attractive but delicate and ugly but extremely rugged...human nature being what it is, we sometimes opt for pretty when rugged would be a far better choice.

Also think about picking up a case cover if all of the latches on your intended flight case are not ATA-approved locking latches. The all-locking latch issue is the only negative we see with the Hiscox cases, and one that -if addressed - would see us recommending the Hiscox Artist over the Calton or BAM for frequent flyers. The Hoffee is so pretty that I'd want a case cover just to prevent baggage hold rash, as all latches lock already.

I'm not sure if Mr. Brentrup is speaking of the really awful three ply flat top and back cases that were standard for the 15 and 16 series guitars or the new C600 series thermoformed cases, but I agree with him on both. That said, don't confuse the featherweight, well engineered Hiscox for the also-ran Martin, SKB, or generic plastic cases...apples and eggplants.

_________________
We have become a civilization that elevates idiots, prostitutes, and clowns. Am I still to defend it? Yes, for its principles. Yes, for what it was. Yes, for what it still may be.

-Mark Helprin, The Oceans and the Stars: A Sea Story, A War Story, A Love Story (A Novel)


Last edited by Woodie G on Tue Sep 04, 2018 11:18 am, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cases..
PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 8:37 am 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood

Joined: Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:34 am
Posts: 3081
Mr. Brentrup offered his opinion.
Mr. Brentrup is finished with this...


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cases..
PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 11:45 am 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:05 am
Posts: 9191
Location: United States
First name: Waddy
Last Name: Thomson
City: Charlotte
State: NC
Focus: Build
Status: Semi-pro
The Hiscox cases are available at builders prices if you buy them 4 at a time from the manufacturer. It's been a while since I last ordered, so I can't comment on the current price, but less than $200 per case(Classical guitar) including shipping on my last order from Musiquip.

_________________
Waddy

Photobucket Build Album Library

Sound Clips of most of my guitars


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cases..
PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:11 pm 
Offline
Walnut
Walnut

Joined: Sun Jul 29, 2018 11:43 am
Posts: 21
First name: David
Last Name: Scheckman
City: Plainfield
State: VT
Zip/Postal Code: 05667
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
I just finished a 12 fret 000 and I’d like to get a Hiscox Pro II case for it. The hiscox specs show the body length capacity of the 000/OM case as 19 3/4”. The body length on my build is a tad shy of 20 1/2”. Several on this thread have said they use hiscox for 000 12 frets. Can anyone confirm a hiscox 000/0M Pro II will work for my guitar. Thanks,
David


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cases..
PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:25 pm 
Offline
Walnut
Walnut

Joined: Sun Jul 29, 2018 11:43 am
Posts: 21
First name: David
Last Name: Scheckman
City: Plainfield
State: VT
Zip/Postal Code: 05667
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
I’m more and more confused on this. I just spoke to Elderly and they said they checked a martin 000 12 fret in a hiscox and do not recommend it, but the photo above of a 12 fret 000 looks like a fine fit. Mine is a long scale pretty much the same dimensions overall as a martin 000 12 fret long scale. I’d love to avoid a Geib style case, so heavy and clunky. I have reunion blues voyager case/bag that fits but not perfect and not rigid enough for my taste.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cases..
PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 9:18 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:33 am
Posts: 1831
First name: Willard
Last Name: Guthrie
City: Cumberland
State: Maryland 21502
Zip/Postal Code: 21502
Country: United State
Focus: Repair
Status: Semi-pro
I'm not sure why Elderly would suggest that the fit on the 000 case is not a good one for a 12 fret 000, but we've delivered three 000's in the past year in both 12 and 14 fret, and all were very nice fits in the Pro II and Artist 000-sized cases. Our current 000 templates are pulled from vintage instruments from the 1930's and 1940's, but a quick check against the old MacRostie template does not indicate there should be any issues with fit if using the Stewmac plans for your project.

In terms of returns in the event that you do not consider the fit to be adequate, both MF and Elderly will charge shipping on returns, although it will be their cost versus yours (big shipping accounts have much lower rates). That said, outbound shipping from MF is free, so a return costs shipping in only one direction.

_________________
We have become a civilization that elevates idiots, prostitutes, and clowns. Am I still to defend it? Yes, for its principles. Yes, for what it was. Yes, for what it still may be.

-Mark Helprin, The Oceans and the Stars: A Sea Story, A War Story, A Love Story (A Novel)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cases..
PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 1:29 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 04, 2005 10:03 am
Posts: 6680
Location: Abbotsford, BC Canada
Brad, Ameritage has their OM case on for $325 right now. You might even get a builder discount off that.

http://www.ameritage.com/store/product/ ... _Case.html

_________________
My Facebook Guitar Page

"There's really no wrong way, as long as the results are what's desired." Charles Fox

"We have to constantly remind ourselves what we're doing....No Luthier is putting a man on the moon!" Harry Fleishman

"Generosity is always different in the eye of the person who didn't receive anything, but who wanted some." Waddy Thomson


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cases..
PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:38 am 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Sun Feb 27, 2005 10:11 am
Posts: 2142
Rod True wrote:
Brad, Ameritage has their OM case on for $325 right now. You might even get a builder discount off that.

http://www.ameritage.com/store/product/ ... _Case.html


Thanks, Rod.

That seems like a good deal.

I ended up getting a few of the Hiscox cases and I really like them.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 22 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Ken Nagy and 52 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
phpBB customization services by 2by2host.com