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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 10:31 pm 
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A building friend sent me this today and I wasn’t sure if this had made the rounds yet.

Viewer discretion advised... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUMXb7S_37o

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 11:13 pm 
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The face palm count for the video is off the charts. At least some points can be awarded for most creative and decorative use of old spoon handles at 1:24.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 11:35 pm 
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Yeah, those spoons were regal! Took me a while to get that the strat saddles were upside down so that the ball ends could be trapped by the bottom of the Allen screws. Clever! The strings probably came off of a short scale guitar and therefore we’re not long enough for the fender.


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I had a Gibson Les Paul Custom with a broken neck where the neck was held together with 2 brass screws...

I epoxied it together, and then inserted a cleat into it, then did a burst over it to make it look like it was original.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:46 pm 
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Here's an Ovation guitar I bought to re-top.

On the plus side, the extra mass on the bridge really helped the sustain.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:52 pm 
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DanSavage wrote:
Here's an Ovation guitar I bought to re-top.

On the plus side, the extra mass on the bridge really helped the sustain.

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Great looking re-top! Did you weigh the extra hardware by chance?

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That was entertaining....

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:03 pm 
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Actually a lot of Ovation guitars with the string that goes through the bridge (rather than using a bridge pin) all have bolts through the bridge (but hidden by an inlay). I thought it's because loading the string through the back of the bridge may unnecessarily stress the bridge glue so a bolt is still necessary to allow the top to carry the tension. I think Breedlove guitars are like this too.

I don't like that design by the way because it makes setup very difficult. With bridge pins if I need to raise or lower the saddle I could just capo the first fret, loosen the string and pop the bridge pins to get to the saddle. With these Breedlove guitars I have to take them off the tuning peg completely to get at the saddle.

By the way I seen a few classical (!) guitars strung with steel string like a Breedlove and a few of them have the entire tie block break off as a result.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:07 am 
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Tai Fu wrote:
Actually a lot of Ovation guitars with the string that goes through the bridge (rather than using a bridge pin) all have bolts through the bridge (but hidden by an inlay). I thought it's because loading the string through the back of the bridge may unnecessarily stress the bridge glue so a bolt is still necessary to allow the top to carry the tension. I think Breedlove guitars are like this too.

I don't like that design by the way because it makes setup very difficult. With bridge pins if I need to raise or lower the saddle I could just capo the first fret, loosen the string and pop the bridge pins to get to the saddle. With these Breedlove guitars I have to take them off the tuning peg completely to get at the saddle.

By the way I seen a few classical (!) guitars strung with steel string like a Breedlove and a few of them have the entire tie block break off as a result.


I was told that they used the bolts on the stained tops. Natural tops didn't need the bolts.

I use the same basic technique on Ovation guitars during set up except I capo at the 5th fret before slackening the strings. I've never had any problems lifting the saddle enough to add/remove a shim or even to completely remove the saddle from the bridge slot. This works for both the OCP-1K (wide) and the slim-line saddles.


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