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PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2019 7:01 pm 
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Well, some days are better than others.

I sold this guitar to a friend of mine some years ago, and yesterday on the way to a sunshiny porch with coffee in one hand and a book in the other, relying on the strap buttons to be kind and supportive, well..., they weren't.

The results are close to catastrophic. However bad it looks, I understand that even the most ghastly of errors can be rectified. Sometimes Humpty can in fact be put back together again.

Looking for someone in the Portland Oregon area with the touch of a reanimator to maybe breathe some life back into this poor creature, if possible.

It has little financial value, having been sold as a well loved but poorly looked after B stock, being my main gig guitar for many years, even making it to Europe and back in the cargo hold in a gig bag, but as such it has some fair sentimental value, enough that it deserves at least a consultation...

Any recommendations, or do I just start playing Taps?

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PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2019 8:04 pm 
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Hi Ed,
If you are not too concerned about aesthetics I'm sure you could just glue everything back together. If you are concerned about aesthetics, as a non-vintage instrument retopping it might be easiest. If you are concerned with aesthetics, and want to keep everything original , it could probably be done, but that's more work. The right repairman could probably make most of the damage disappear.
You might want to take the strings off of it, line things back up, and lightly clamp or strap it together.


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PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2019 8:18 pm 
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I am with Clay, "take the strings off of it, line things back up, and lightly clamp or strap it together. "The clean on grain line cracks go back together nicely, The dark split binding can be put together cleanly as well.

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PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2019 10:51 pm 
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Duck tape - it even comes in fun colors now.


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PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2019 10:58 pm 
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Lols!

I built it, but it isn't mine anymore, I sold it to a friend when I stopped gigging. He's in Portland, I'm in Van, BC, and I don't really want the job, though it may come to that depending on certain things...

Toonces, any particular colour you recommend?


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PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2019 11:16 pm 
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For a completely invisible repair, I recommend:

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But Ed, if you want to really class this baby up, then I heartily recommend using the finest duct tape known to man ...

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PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2019 12:53 am 
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They know their stuff, coming out with a spruce color! Maybe we can get them to print winter grain lines on it to boot!


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PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2019 5:17 pm 
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Hi Ed,
Sorry to hear about and see the damage to one of your guitars. I'm at the NW handmade musical instrument exhibit this weekend, and one of the luthiers here showed me your post. I worked at Gryphon Stringed Instruments for the last 7 years, and just opened my own shop in Portland. I really love doing heavy structural repair like this one, I made a blog on the Gryphon site of one sort of in the same vein here: https://www.gryphonstrings.com/repair-p ... al-repair/

I just set up shop in January in Montavilla on Stark St.
My website is www.pdxguitarrepair.com
Hope this helps!

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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2019 2:38 am 
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Looks like a lot of work. If it were me (and I'm glad it's not) I would be inclined to save the bits and re-top it. Good luck.

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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2019 6:49 am 
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"yesterday on the way to a sunshiny porch with coffee in one hand and a book in the other, relying on the strap buttons to be kind and supportive, well..., they weren't."

Although that gives it a bit less "Mojo" than the proverbial bar fight or jealous girlfriend, I would probably glue things back together and let it live on with a few scars. It is surprising how much damage a top can sustain and still sound good.


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PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2019 12:12 pm 
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Portland Fretworks on Alberta street is where I would go. Todd Mylet and his staff are masters of repair. I've had Todd lacquer several of my recent guitars. He does beautiful work. And he works in more than just nitro.


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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2019 7:08 pm 
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Oh my! Did I just also get a hookup for a nitro finish?


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Kerry Char is great and very knowledgeable.

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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2019 7:01 am 
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meddlingfool wrote:
It has little financial value, having been sold as a well loved but poorly looked after B stock, being my main gig guitar for many years, even making it to Europe and back in the cargo hold in a gig bag, but as such it has some fair sentimental value, enough that it deserves at least a consultation...

... and that it just received.

"poorly looked after B stock" says most of what you need to know. Not worth fixing. This is not a glue it back up from the top repair - the internal top bracing is completely compromised. This is a re-top. Tackle the job as an education. Or put it in the burn pile.


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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2019 7:46 am 
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"but as such it has some fair sentimental value, enough that it deserves at least a consultation..."

Sometimes we underrate sentimental value. I still have my first guitar, a plywood Giannini classical that my parents bought me when I was a kid. It went with me many places, including the Appalachian trail where it developed a fairly large crack from being dropped on a rock. It was glued and puttied in the finest amateur fashion. It also when through a couple of less than successful refinishings way back when. At this point it probably only has sentimental value, and if it breaks maybe it doesn't deserve the finest repair techniques available, but with a little effort and Elmer's could sound a chord or two again. Ultimately it is headed for the burn pile, but ultimately so am I. bliss


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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2019 8:29 am 
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The perfect existential crisis [:Y:] . Elmers glue should produce a sentimental repair. Look forward to the youtube video with chords strumming!


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 2:29 pm 
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Fretworks Portland put Humpty Dumpty back together again...
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 2:49 pm 
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Unreal. That’s some incredible work.


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Very nice work!

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Not too shabby, nice one! [clap]

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 3:21 pm 
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I was impressed, and happy for my friends, plus I found a place to get nitro done!


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Im-freakin-pressive!!!

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:29 pm 
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Wow that is impressive work. Was it another angry spouse?


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:56 pm 
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Not this one, just a careless mishap...


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:48 pm 
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Hmmm... A likely story :)

What kind of wood is the back and sides?


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