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 Post subject: Z-Poxy dillution
PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2019 3:51 pm 
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Question... following the first lore fill and sand back should I dilute the epoxy a little bit? Would it help it flow better to get into the increasingly small pores?
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 Post subject: Re: Z-Poxy dillution
PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2019 4:04 pm 
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I apply two coats, first is full strength, sand back to wood, second is diluted with DA. Often I will apply a third coat highly diluted (mostly alcohol) to enhance grain. Been told its all wrong but I like what I get

http://www.tdpri.com/threads/zpoxy-for- ... nt.940522/



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 Post subject: Re: Z-Poxy dillution
PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2019 4:32 pm 
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Freeman wrote:
I apply two coats, first is full strength, sand back to wood, second is diluted with DA. Often I will apply a third coat highly diluted (mostly alcohol) to enhance grain. Been told its all wrong but I like what I get

http://www.tdpri.com/threads/zpoxy-for- ... nt.940522/

Yes sir I learned that SUPER thin coat does a fantastic job of color matching anything that needs to be handled :)
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 Post subject: Re: Z-Poxy dillution
PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2019 5:28 pm 
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Freeman wrote:
I apply two coats, first is full strength, sand back to wood, second is diluted with DA. Often I will apply a third coat highly diluted (mostly alcohol) to enhance grain. Been told its all wrong but I like what I get

http://www.tdpri.com/threads/zpoxy-for- ... nt.940522/

That's exactly what I do although some woods like really porous Brazilian RW take up to three full strength coats.



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 Post subject: Re: Z-Poxy dillution
PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2019 5:49 pm 
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Depending on the wood, I do two full strength coats (three if needed) and follow with a wiped-on coat of z-poxy diluted 1:1 with denatured alcohol.

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 Post subject: Re: Z-Poxy dillution
PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2019 6:28 pm 
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I haven't diluted epoxy in many years. I don't see the need for it the way I apply. This is how I do it.

I wipe the guitar down with DNA, then I warm a section at a time with a hair dryer, (as in the back or one side, or the neck). This drives the moisture out and makes amine blush unlikely in all but very humid conditions.

Once I warm one section I proceed with the epoxy. I spread a thin layer of epoxy with a plastic spreader followed by a squeegee. Then I immediately warm the epoxy with the hair dryer being careful not to get it too warm. If it does it can easily bubble which is bad, then I lightly brush it once with a good quality foam brush. This will pick up excess and smooth ridges. You don't want to go back over it with the brush or re-heat. It will be a mess

I let the first coat dry just until it can be handled without imprinting, usually 4 hours depending on conditions. Then I repeat the same way except I skip the DNA and the first 'warm-up'.

I continue on, trying to get three coats in a day. Done this way the epoxy will be thin and smooth and chemically bond between layers. Then I let it cure for a few days followed by level sanding, etc.

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 Post subject: Re: Z-Poxy dillution
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I use 2/3 coats to pore fill depending on how it goes, then after last coat has been sanded, I use 2/3 quick coats with about a 10:1 dilution with Isopropyl alcohol to even the colour from any sand though.
Them just scuff with scotchbrite to key for finish.

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