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Author: | roby [ Tue Sep 16, 2025 9:51 am ] |
Post subject: | Neck Angle question |
Ok got my neck finished fretboard on and fretted ,when i check with straightedge it just grazes top of bridge which is 3/8 inch. Is this in the ball park? Thanks Rob. |
Author: | Colin North [ Tue Sep 16, 2025 10:24 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Neck Angle question |
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Author: | meddlingfool [ Tue Sep 16, 2025 11:21 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Neck Angle question |
Perfect, well done! |
Author: | Brad Goodman [ Tue Sep 16, 2025 4:08 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Neck Angle question |
It will be probably be alright, but I shoot for at least a 1/16" above because the top will rise a little. also it gives more saddle above the bridge for future settling in. |
Author: | Woodie G [ Thu Sep 18, 2025 4:11 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Neck Angle question |
Interesting question. Assuming you wish to get something close to 1/2" final string height over the top at the bridge on a new/never strung traditionally constructed flattop guitar, I would lean towards Mr. Goodman's suggestion. On a reset of an older instrument, I would tend toward agreement with Mr. North's 'thumbs up' response. Is this new construction or a reset? Why this matters: A new flattop guitar will 'settle' over the first few months, with much of that body distortion or apparent 'top rise' occurring within a week or so after stringing up. A lightly constructed instrument might see as much as .060" apparent rise in the top (really an aggregate of back, side, and top distortion due to loading), while something built to the approach Guild took on much of their Westerly 6 string production might see closer to .030 inch change. This is the basis upon which I feel Mr. Goodman's response reflects what you may see if your instrument is in fact new construction. For an existing instrument, we usually have the advantage of knowing something about how much change we might see in string height above the top under load with measurement both under load and unloaded. Most existing instruments have distorted such that - even with load removed - much of that top rise/distortion is already locked in place. If Mr. Goodman's suggestion on new construction neck geometry is IMO inappropriately applied to a reset on an older guitar, I believe most repair people would anticipate an over-set. Further, resets must deal with the guitar as it is versus how it might have left the shop or factory decades earlier, to include bridge thicknesses below or above what might be considered optimal as well as overall construction (e.g., 00-21NY versus a 1970's D-28). Further geometry adjustment might be required to avoid a very tall saddle on a thin bridge (with possible structural failure of the saddle slot) or deliver a guitar back to the customer with a very weak reset and minimal benefit to volume, note-to-note separation, projection, and change in saddle height. |
Author: | Terence Kennedy [ Thu Sep 18, 2025 9:17 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Neck Angle question |
As already noted, it all depends on how much your instrument will settle in. A double tenon bolt on may settle more than a bolt on with a glued extension or a dovetail. Upper bout and headlock construction play a role. It helps to see your instruments back a year or so post partum. One thing you can do to get a little feel is support the headstock and add about 12lbs in weight to the upper bout with the neck bolted on or the dovetail tightly clamped and see where the straightedge hits. That'll approximate string tension. I think just grazing the bridge unstrung will most likely result in an underset neck one year later in most guitars. I also shoot for around 1/16 or slightly less over the top unstrung. |
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