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 Post subject: Spider Bridge insert
PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 7:59 pm 
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I am making a spider bridge saddle insert, maple with an ebony cap. What should the grain orientation, relative to the height of the insert, in the maple be? Verical? Horizontal? Diagonal?
I have cut some with the grain vertical and it seems to bend a little more than I think it should.
Any thoughts are welcome.


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 Post subject: Re: Spider Bridge insert
PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:33 pm 
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Ron-
I don't know if this will help, but fiddle bridges have the piece quarter-sawn- ie the grain lines run parallel to the soundboard.
Discussion and pic:
http://www.lutherie.net/grain.html


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John (with a reso body still not assembled, hardware in the drawer....)


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 Post subject: Re: Spider Bridge insert
PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:03 am 
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JohnAbercrombie wrote:
Ron-
I don't know if this will help, but fiddle bridges have the piece quarter-sawn- ie the grain lines run parallel to the soundboard.
Discussion and pic:
http://www.lutherie.net/grain.html


Cheers
John (with a reso body still not assembled, hardware in the drawer....)




Ummm...John

Yes,
Violin family bridges are definatly quarter sawn.

But NO, the grain does not run parallel to the soundboard, it runs Perpendicular to the grain of the sound board.


Ron,

When you make the bridge out of perfect quartersawn stock...the end grain will show the layerd growth rings hoizontal to the deck of the instrument.

In reality one face of the bridge shuld be perfectly quartered to show the medullary rays, The other face will be slightly off quarter.

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 Post subject: Re: Spider Bridge insert
PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:08 am 
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Thank you both for the replies. I really appreciate it. [:Y:]

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 Post subject: Re: Spider Bridge insert
PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:29 pm 
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the Padma wrote:

Ummm...John

Yes,
Violin family bridges are definatly quarter sawn.

But NO, the grain does not run parallel to the soundboard, it runs Perpendicular to the grain of the sound board.


Huh?
Would it be clearer if I'd said 'parallel to the plane of the face of the soundboard'??

Looking at the pic in the link should clear this up.

Cheers
John


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 Post subject: Re: Spider Bridge insert
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JohnAbercrombie wrote:
Huh?
Would it be clearer if I'd said 'parallel to the plane of the face of the soundboard'??

Looking at the pic in the link should clear this up.

Cheers
John



Ummm ... sorry John,

no it wouldn't.


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 Post subject: Re: Spider Bridge insert
PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 6:10 pm 
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Forget about the grain direction of the soundboard for a moment....
..."plane of the soundboard"...


Anyway, 'nuff said (in any font size)


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