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Author:  banjopicks [ Fri Aug 07, 2020 8:20 am ]
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Yes, I recently joined. I want to avoid power tools as much as I can within reason. I like the workout I get, I really need it sitting at a desk all day.
Author:  Ken Nagy [ Fri Aug 07, 2020 9:30 am ]
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bcombs510 wrote:
Just curious, is the goal to avoid power tools? There is a group on Facebook dedicated to instrument building without power tools, are you already a member there? Unplugged luthiers I think? I’m not a member, I just know it exists. :)

Brad


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That sounds interesting. I'm a Neanderthal too. I used my flat finger plane on the back and belly overhangs. It worked really well. I'm a BIGGER Neanderthal though. I'm not on Facebook! Hah.
Author:  banjopicks [ Fri Aug 07, 2020 9:50 am ]
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You're a step above some neanders, you're member here!

I would have used a finger plane if I had a larger flat one. My flat one is only 1/2", to me, that's too small for the job. Now that I've used the spokeshave, there's no going back. It was like a knife through butta!
Author:  banjopicks [ Mon Jan 25, 2021 1:55 pm ]
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Finally got to neck fitting stage. All cut by hand and will require some shims. I'm ok with that.

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Author:  Skarsaune [ Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:00 pm ]
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What is the tool in the second picture?
Author:  banjopicks [ Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:16 pm ]
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Its a hand router.
Author:  doncaparker [ Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:55 pm ]
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AKA a router plane.
Author:  banjopicks [ Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:15 pm ]
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It's one of my favorite tools.
Author:  Colin North [ Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:48 am ]
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Or, a Witch's Tooth - I always liked that one.
Author:  Ruby50 [ Tue Jan 26, 2021 8:49 am ]
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Old woman's tooth, widow's tooth, but my favorite is hag's tooth. It had been around since Roman times, used by carvers, inlayers and woodworkers. In it's most primitive form it is a chisel in a holder, or for a long time, since blades were expensive, a plow plane blade like this one

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/antique-payne-widows-tooth-440402139

Essential for hand tool woodworking- works great as a marking gauge too. Limited use on guitars, but I use a small one in the same place that Picks does

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ruby1638/42631083021/in/album-72157688488198220/

click left and right

Ed m
Author:  Ken Nagy [ Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:19 am ]
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Nice work Hutch. I just fit a violin neck yesterday. Same thing. WAY smaller scale! I did my usual problem of adding a little too much back angle on the taper, so I glued a strip on each side of the neck at the very end so I could trim it to fit the slot. No one knows.

I'm always surprised how quickly the neck drops with very thin cuts off the sides of the dovetail.

I like your guitar vise. Thin boards on the inside that can give. Good idea. I hold everything in my hands, and it doesn't take much from a sharp chisel before you have to get a little bandaid. I did saw the sides of the dovetail while the ribs are still on the form, so it is flat, and can be clamped to the bench. So why didn't I clamp it to the SIDE of the bench? Maybe I'll remember to do that next time.

I thought of getting a hand router for wider rosettes and purfling, and for cutting truss rod slots. A laminated neck could do that slot too. I like making chips, but not noise.
Author:  banjopicks [ Sat Jan 30, 2021 8:01 pm ]
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I have the dovetail fitting well, still 3/16" to go but before I go any deeper I need to do the calculations without the fretboard installed. I just noticed the top is flat to concave. I also noticed the humidity is down to 25% which may have something to do with that. Because of that, I think I'm just going to get it close and wait until the finishing is done. This is one dry basement.
Author:  banjopicks [ Mon Feb 01, 2021 12:41 pm ]
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I don't know if this is a good way to do this but I posted on FB and wanted to try posting the link here. So here I go. [url] https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... 430045/url]
Author:  banjopicks [ Fri Feb 05, 2021 9:39 am ]
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I made a big blunder with the back. Because I added the back strip in after the fact. I kept chasing the perfect fit until now the strip is as wide as the inside strip that is suppose to span tha joins. I also don't like the binding results. So, I'm considering ordering a new back and doing it right, this will be the 3rd back but I know how to do it right now. Should I just run with it or get a new back?
Author:  banjopicks [ Fri Feb 05, 2021 9:51 am ]
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In addition to the above, where can I get just a rosewood back relatively cheap
Author:  banjopicks [ Fri Feb 05, 2021 11:17 am ]
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The back is off.
Author:  banjopicks [ Fri Feb 05, 2021 11:42 am ]
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New back ordered through the above lmii link.
Author:  banjopicks [ Fri Feb 05, 2021 4:23 pm ]
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This time, rather than route for the backstrip, I'm going to sandwich it between the back halves. This what I should have done the first time, I think.
Author:  banjopicks [ Sat Feb 06, 2021 8:06 am ]
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Working on the neck last night I was measuring for the trussrod adjustment hole in the neck block. I had installed the rod upside down. Thank fully it is isn't glued in so I was able to remove it with pliers and a rubber mallet
All good now.

As I was prepping the rim for the new back, I found it difficult to get the rim tight in the mold. I got it but wonder how much the back might Defoe after I install it and remove the stretchers.

Though I can't wait to start number 2, I just hate to let anything go. So this is the 3rd back on its way and the top is the second. No sense building a shutty guitar. I just could've with it.
Author:  SteveSmith [ Sat Feb 06, 2021 8:28 am ]
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I agree with you. There's mistakes/repairs I'll let pass but if it's beyond a point then it's time to replace it.

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Author:  banjopicks [ Sat Feb 06, 2021 8:36 am ]
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And those backs won't be wasted. I'll turn them into parlor guitars.
Author:  banjopicks [ Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:49 am ]
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I have the new back in hand and I'm undecided on a backstrip. For one, I don't have one and will have to make something or order one and wait for it. I miss having a nearby Woodcraft, they carry them. I'm pretty sure I want to build the strip in though.

I spent some extra time making some spreaders for some problem areas and sides fit the mold pretty good now. Just for the heck of it I tested the old back and I had to laugh. It was so far off. I was pretty sure it was and this was proof.

I have few more days to work on this but having just recovered from Covid, I have to take it slow, probably the best thing anyway :-)
Author:  Dave m2 [ Thu Feb 11, 2021 12:33 pm ]
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Well pleased to hear you got over the plague Hutch.

I would just point out that if sandwiching a back strip, the mating surfaces do have to be very good. Flat and smooth which isn't perhaps the easiest thing to achieve with these small strips.

The last one I did by cutting the grooves for shallow strips I the back while it was still flat. The strips could then fitted to the grooves relatively easily. You have to pretty careful with alignment when getting the back on of course.

Cheers Dave
Author:  banjopicks [ Thu Feb 11, 2021 1:46 pm ]
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I have thickness sander so getting all the edges of the strip I'm using was pretty easy. I like what you did there and ideally I would do the same to match up to my end wedge. I'm too afraid of doing anything but the simplest things right now as you can imagine if you've followed along with this build. I just want to get it done now so I can start another. This ones very close
Author:  banjopicks [ Tue Feb 16, 2021 11:35 am ]
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Before I put the back on this again, I want to add the clothe to the top cross braces. What material is acceptable for this. I don't have any linen, would gauze work? I really don't want to purchase a bunch of linen just for this.
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