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Author:  jfmckenna [ Sun Sep 18, 2022 7:26 pm ]
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Barry Daniels wrote:
I use to use fish glue to attach tops and backs to sides due to the long open time. But this discussion got me wondering, so I went out today and hunted down a bottle of Titebond "Original" Extend.


I have never used it but it sounds like a really good choice of glue for certain operations.

Author:  bftobin [ Sun Sep 18, 2022 7:45 pm ]
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Titebond wasn't available where I live when I got started. My glue of choice then, was Lepage's yellow glue. After that, I went to Lee Valley's GF2002 cabinetmaker's glue. About five years ago, I decided to try HHG. I put off trying HHG because it sounded too complicated, but it was much easier than I expected. I've been tempted to try fish glue, but I could never get past the humidity issues. In my area, humidity is often 70% to 95% during the summer and 30% in the winter. Anything I can't glue with HHG, I use the GF2002. It has many of the characteristics of HHG. If you haven't tried it, give it a whirl. To me, It's much better than Titebond.

Author:  Hesh [ Mon Sep 19, 2022 2:29 am ]
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Barry Daniels wrote:
I use to use fish glue to attach tops and backs to sides due to the long open time. But this discussion got me wondering, so I went out today and hunted down a bottle of Titebond "Original" Extend.


We've used it with excellent results. Dave tested it too and shared the results (all favorable) at the Northwoods Seminar. Good choice.

Author:  joshnothing [ Mon Sep 19, 2022 2:58 am ]
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How much practical extra open time does the extend get you? According to the Titebond website, open time for original is “4-to-6” minutes, vs “5 minutes” for extend.


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Author:  Hesh [ Mon Sep 19, 2022 3:06 am ]
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joshnothing wrote:
How much practical extra open time does the extend get you? According to the Titebond website, open time for original is “4-to-6” minutes, vs “5 minutes” for extend.


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Josh it's about double the open time at 15 minutes per Titebond. http://www.titebond.com/product/glues/d7c6f86b-93cc-4400-99ed-79f8a75a2e95

I've used it on some cracks but never felt I needed the extra time afforded over regular original Titebond.

Author:  joshnothing [ Mon Sep 19, 2022 3:19 am ]
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Now that’s interesting, the info I quoted from my local AU Titebond site is different that your link the the US website. I wonder if it’s just an error on the AU website or if we have a different formulation?

Thanks Hesh!

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Author:  Hesh [ Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:33 am ]
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joshnothing wrote:
Now that’s interesting, the info I quoted from my local AU Titebond site is different that your link the the US website. I wonder if it’s just an error on the AU website or if we have a different formulation?

Thanks Hesh!

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Or they are just in more of a hurry down there :) It might indeed be a different formulation.

My take on it is that it's original Titebond with additives to extend open time. So you likely still have the cold creep problem making it not a great choice for bridges just like Titebond original is not a great choice for bridges in my experience. But for other stuff including what Barry brought up attaching the plates to the rim it might be great.

Anyway it's an option for some applications.

Author:  joshnothing [ Tue Sep 20, 2022 6:49 am ]
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Yes, I’m fairly committed to HHG for bridges, I’d use extend for non-critical stuff like bindings on my own builds.

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