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Author:  Colleen_M [ Tue Aug 30, 2022 11:33 am ]
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Colleen, I've had one of the Ridgid spindle sanders in my shop for 15yrs. I could have updated anytime in the last 10 years if I wanted to but it just works so well I don't need to. The belt sander attachment is useful but I don't put it on much since I have 2 other belt/disc sander combos.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-Osci ... lsrc=3p.ds



That just happens to be the one I have my eye on… interestingly, it’s a little less expensive here in Canada… $248.00.

Author:  doncaparker [ Tue Aug 30, 2022 1:04 pm ]
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Lots of guitar builders own the Ridgid spindle/belt sander, for good reason. It's darn handy and not that expensive.

Author:  Brad Goodman [ Tue Aug 30, 2022 9:13 pm ]
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That looks like a nice drill press for the money.
I’ve had this spindle sander for 20 years. I bought it used for very little money it’s a Taiwanese machine but works great.Image


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Author:  Colleen_M [ Tue Aug 30, 2022 10:07 pm ]
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I checked to see if I could get a used spindle sander, but no luck. I figured for $250, it was worth it. And it comes with a lifetime warranty!

Author:  Hesh [ Wed Aug 31, 2022 4:22 am ]
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doncaparker wrote:
Lots of guitar builders own the Ridgid spindle/belt sander, for good reason. It's darn handy and not that expensive.


Exactly! We've used mine for over ten years commercially with lots of use in a busy shop and it still runs and functions perfectly. Wish I could say the same... :)

Author:  Colleen_M [ Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:39 pm ]
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Glaring “oopsie” - probably won’t be the last. I used the bandsaw to cut the nut edge of the headstock veneer, and my first cut was badly off. The best fix I could think of was filling the gap with rosewood sawdust and hitting it with some CA. It won’t be completely invisible, but at least it won’t stand out. Hopefully when I sand the veneer to final thickness (with my new sander), it’ll be barely noticeable. A showpiece this guitar will NOT be, lol…

Author:  SteveSmith [ Thu Sep 01, 2022 3:20 pm ]
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Yep, just move on or figure out an inlay to put in over it.

Author:  Colleen_M [ Sat Sep 03, 2022 12:43 pm ]
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Hoo, boy! Now I ask you, is that not the most pitiful excuse for a headstock you’ve ever seen? Time to cut my losses and start over, methinks. Luckily, a week from Monday, I’ll be in the vicinity of the store where I bought my wood initially, so I can buy another neck blank and start again. It’ll go faster this time, because I have better equipment now, and a better appreciation of what I’m up against…

Author:  Alan Carruth [ Sat Sep 03, 2022 6:05 pm ]
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It can take a long time to come up with a headstock you like that's also 'different'.

Author:  Colleen_M [ Sat Sep 03, 2022 6:22 pm ]
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Alan Carruth wrote:
It can take a long time to come up with a headstock you like that's also 'different'.


I'd be happy with one that doesn't look like something from a Tim Burton film, lol!

Author:  Clay S. [ Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:21 pm ]
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I would plane the edges straight, glue on some "ears" and re-veneer the head plate. Plenty of commercially made big name guitars have multipiece pegheads. You can plug the tuner holes first if you have to.
And yes I know a guy who has done that very thing! gaah laughing6-hehe
You might want to choose an easier design for your first couple of instruments.
Making a guitar might take a forest if we didn't learn how to fix our mistakes.

Author:  Colleen_M [ Mon Sep 05, 2022 5:30 pm ]
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Clay S. wrote:
I would plane the edges straight, glue on some "ears" and re-veneer the head plate. … Making a guitar might take a forest if we didn't learn how to fix our mistakes.


Thanks, Clay! Exactly what I’m gonna try. Got the edges straight and true (checked with straightedge and square). Tomorrow I’ll glue on the wings, and make another go at it. Luckily, I have a boxful of veneers to hide the evidence (yes, I’ll veneer the back, too). I also found a couple of Etsy shops from which I ordered some nice abalone strips, for the rosette and around the edge of the top.

Author:  Dave m2 [ Tue Sep 06, 2022 11:19 am ]
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Another idea if you have enough wood left, you could resaw the scarf joint and glue a replacement headstock piece on.

Cheers Dave

Author:  WudWerkr [ Tue Sep 06, 2022 12:11 pm ]
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Colleen_M wrote:
Clay S. wrote:
I would plane the edges straight, glue on some "ears" and re-veneer the head plate. … Making a guitar might take a forest if we didn't learn how to fix our mistakes.


Thanks, Clay! Exactly what I’m gonna try. Got the edges straight and true (checked with straightedge and square). Tomorrow I’ll glue on the wings, and make another go at it. Luckily, I have a boxful of veneers to hide the evidence (yes, I’ll veneer the back, too). I also found a couple of Etsy shops from which I ordered some nice abalone strips, for the rosette and around the edge of the top.


Have done the same myself

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rose wood headstock.jpg

Author:  Colleen_M [ Tue Sep 06, 2022 6:11 pm ]
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“Got yer ears on good buddy?” “That’s a big 10-4, bucko! Comin’ in 10 by 10!”

I even managed to find the piece I cut badly on the bass side of the hyoid.

Author:  Clay S. [ Tue Sep 06, 2022 9:38 pm ]
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[:Y:]

Author:  Colleen_M [ Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:49 pm ]
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Headstock redemption! It’s a little lopsided and quirky, but so am I. A little more shaping and sanding by hand, and it’ll be ready for the new veneer. I think it’ll be not half bad. Next one will be better

Author:  Colleen_M [ Tue Sep 13, 2022 7:27 pm ]
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So I have a new veneer on the headstock, a Madrona burl. Unconventional choice, no doubt. I plan to use it on the rosette also, for balance. This guitar, I have now decided, will get the rosewood fretboard and bridge. Hope this looks as good under finish as I think it will…

Author:  J De Rocher [ Tue Sep 13, 2022 7:46 pm ]
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The madrone burl is a cool choice. I bet it'll look great under the finish.

Author:  TerrenceMitchell [ Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:52 pm ]
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Bravo on the determination! Reminds me when I first started woodworking and didn't always have the "best" tool for a given task, but I wanted to make stuff so much that I just found a way. Learned an absolute truckload in the process. I wish I had someone to work with during that period of time, particularly to teach me about using hand tools. It's shocking how accurate you can be with sharp tools and good technique. That said, I think the drill press and the sander were excellent decisions. And as for the "ears"... I do them on every Jumbo, because the neck blanks we buy are not quite wide enough to handle the "Gibson-like" shape of the headstock.

Keep at it, and don't give up!

Author:  SnowManSnow [ Fri Sep 23, 2022 1:29 pm ]
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Don’t give up:) finish the first one:)


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Author:  flemsmith [ Fri Sep 23, 2022 2:18 pm ]
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Nice job on the headstock repair!

Author:  SteveSmith [ Fri Sep 23, 2022 3:12 pm ]
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flemsmith wrote:
Nice job on the headstock repair!


+1

Author:  Colleen_M [ Fri Sep 23, 2022 4:00 pm ]
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SteveSmith wrote:
flemsmith wrote:
Nice job on the headstock repair!


+1



Thanks! I’m still working on it, but this has been a busy week, so nothing new to report. I did just receive some nice abalone purfling and strips for a rosette, from 2 different Etsy shops in England. Waiting on a pair of radius dishes. This guitar will get the abalone purfling and a wood veneer rosette (matching the headstock). The next guitar will get an abalone rosette and purfling.

Author:  Colleen_M [ Sun Sep 25, 2022 2:27 pm ]
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My “new” drum sander. Used it for the first time today, to put a “good” side on a 3” wide piece of curly maple to make bindings from. Works like a charm! The crap on the floor is from the re-roofing of the garage the other day. I didn’t figure on the amount of shingle crap that would find its way inside the garage…

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