Official Luthiers Forum!

Owned and operated by Lance Kragenbrink
It is currently Wed Apr 24, 2024 4:46 am


All times are UTC - 5 hours


Forum rules


Be nice, no cussin and enjoy!




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 51 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next
Author Message
PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 12:09 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa

Joined: Mon Oct 17, 2011 4:10 pm
Posts: 644
First name: Bob
Last Name: Gramann
City: Fredericksburg
State: VA
Zip/Postal Code: 22408
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Professional
+1 on the Rubner tuners.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 3:43 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Wed Oct 08, 2008 11:36 am
Posts: 7256
Location: Southeast US
City: Lenoir City
State: TN
Zip/Postal Code: 37772
Country: US
Focus: Repair
The Rubner’s are awesome. This is my first set from them. Won’t be the last, I think.


Steve

_________________
Steve Smith
"Music is what feelings sound like"


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 6:46 pm 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Sun Feb 27, 2005 10:11 am
Posts: 2144
SteveSmith wrote:
The Rubner’s are awesome. This is my first set from them. Won’t be the last, I think.


Steve

I just got a set with snakewood knobs are they were only $125. they are gorgeous AND a great deal!



These users thanked the author Brad Goodman for the post: SteveSmith (Tue Oct 11, 2022 8:39 pm)
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 7:38 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member

Joined: Sat Sep 14, 2013 9:46 pm
Posts: 758
Location: Napa Valley
First name: David
Last Name: Foster
City: Napa
State: CA
Zip/Postal Code: 94558
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
Where are you guys purchasing your Rubber Tuners?

_________________
https://www.instagram.com/fostinoguitars/
https://www.facebook.com/PuraVidaUkuleles/


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 7:58 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa

Joined: Mon Oct 17, 2011 4:10 pm
Posts: 644
First name: Bob
Last Name: Gramann
City: Fredericksburg
State: VA
Zip/Postal Code: 22408
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Professional
I get mine direct: https://www.rubnertuners.com/hauser-style-for-guitar



These users thanked the author bobgramann for the post: dofthesea (Tue Oct 11, 2022 8:15 pm)
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 8:39 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Wed Oct 08, 2008 11:36 am
Posts: 7256
Location: Southeast US
City: Lenoir City
State: TN
Zip/Postal Code: 37772
Country: US
Focus: Repair
bobgramann wrote:

Me too.


Steve

_________________
Steve Smith
"Music is what feelings sound like"



These users thanked the author SteveSmith for the post: dofthesea (Tue Oct 11, 2022 9:38 pm)
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 5:21 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa

Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:00 pm
Posts: 980
First name: Josh
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
I recently put a set of Rubner slot head bourzuki/mando tuners on an old neglected Italian bowl back I was getting back into playing shape. As far as I could tell, they are the only production four-on-a-plate slothead mandolin tuners available. They really were very good tuners for the price.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 6:35 am 
Offline
Old Growth Brazilian Rosewood
Old Growth Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:49 am
Posts: 13079
Location: Ann Arbor, Michigan
First name: Hesh
Last Name: Breakstone
City: Ann Arbor
State: Michigan
Country: United States
Status: Professional
joshnothing wrote:
I recently put a set of Rubner slot head bourzuki/mando tuners on an old neglected Italian bowl back I was getting back into playing shape. As far as I could tell, they are the only production four-on-a-plate slothead mandolin tuners available. They really were very good tuners for the price.


Yes they are and the fist time I worked with them and found out the price it didn't rubner me the wrong way either.

_________________
Ann Arbor Guitars


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 6:57 am 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jul 27, 2015 8:21 am
Posts: 3336
First name: Brad
Last Name: Combs
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
I used Rubner on this uke. The pinning on the back side of the tuner protruded out really far and I had to drill a small hole in the side of the headstock to accommodate it. That’s the only way I could get them to sit flat. I read online where some people filed them off but that didn’t seem like a good idea.

Do the guitar tuners have this same thing?

Image

Image


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

_________________
Insta - https://www.instagram.com/cbcguitars/
Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/cbcguitars


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 7:47 am 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood

Joined: Sun Mar 30, 2008 8:20 am
Posts: 5942
A lot of the old tuners were made that way and part of the installation was making matching divots so the tuners would sit flat. Considering that the the worm gear bearings are essentially riveted to the plates, filing them flat would be a bad idea, as you have surmised.
Piling on, Rubner's do seem to be a nice quality tuner for a reasonable price.



These users thanked the author Clay S. for the post: bcombs510 (Wed Oct 12, 2022 8:27 am)
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 8:47 am 
Offline
Mahogany
Mahogany

Joined: Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:02 pm
Posts: 40
Oooh! Stupid mistakes? Step aside amateurs! 8-) Check out this back stripe!
Attachment:
171006080618 02449-800w.jpg


You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

_________________
R.M. Mottola
LiutaioMottola.com

Author of the books Building the Steel String Acoustic Guitar and Mottola's Cyclopedic Dictionary of Lutherie Terms.



These users thanked the author rmmottola for the post (total 3): Sasamat&Trimble (Sat Oct 15, 2022 4:47 am) • joshnothing (Thu Oct 13, 2022 1:53 am) • Michaeldc (Wed Oct 12, 2022 9:30 am)
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 8:54 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Mon Sep 12, 2005 12:40 am
Posts: 1900
Location: Spokane, Washington
First name: Pat
Last Name: Foster
State: Eastern WA
Focus: Build
rmmottola wrote:
Oooh! Stupid mistakes? Step aside amateurs! 8-) Check out this back stripe!
Attachment:
171006080618 02449-800w.jpg



Now THAT is a PROFESSIONAL mistake!

_________________
now known around here as Pat Foster
_________________
http://www.patfosterguitars.com



These users thanked the author burbank for the post: rmmottola (Wed Oct 12, 2022 9:01 am)
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 9:21 am 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Wed Oct 08, 2008 11:36 am
Posts: 7256
Location: Southeast US
City: Lenoir City
State: TN
Zip/Postal Code: 37772
Country: US
Focus: Repair
Gotta love that one!

_________________
Steve Smith
"Music is what feelings sound like"



These users thanked the author SteveSmith for the post: rmmottola (Wed Oct 12, 2022 9:34 am)
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 9:47 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jun 22, 2014 1:45 pm
Posts: 1446
First name: Michael
Last Name: Colbert
City: Anacortes
State: WA
Focus: Build
When in doubt, feature it!

I made the headstock an 1/8” too narrow - The tuners touched, so I offset them - the client loves it! Oh, and +1 for Rubners!

This rosette went in 180° out - The fretboard wasn’t gonna cover it, so I made a little shell dot to hide the f-up…

Screwing up is learning!

M


You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.



These users thanked the author Michaeldc for the post: rmmottola (Wed Oct 12, 2022 11:34 am)
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 11:27 am 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member

Joined: Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:52 pm
Posts: 2971
First name: Don
Last Name: Parker
City: Charleston
State: West Virginia
Zip/Postal Code: 25314
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
rmmottola wrote:
Oooh! Stupid mistakes? Step aside amateurs! 8-) Check out this back stripe!
Attachment:
171006080618 02449-800w.jpg


Hey, as long as there is another one just like it at the other end, I'm good.



These users thanked the author doncaparker for the post: rmmottola (Wed Oct 12, 2022 11:34 am)
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 11:29 am 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member

Joined: Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:52 pm
Posts: 2971
First name: Don
Last Name: Parker
City: Charleston
State: West Virginia
Zip/Postal Code: 25314
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
Michaeldc wrote:
Screwing up is learning!


True! Which means I have earned enough credits for several advanced degrees.



These users thanked the author doncaparker for the post (total 2): Michaeldc (Wed Oct 12, 2022 11:41 am) • rmmottola (Wed Oct 12, 2022 11:34 am)
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 12:53 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa

Joined: Mon Oct 17, 2011 4:10 pm
Posts: 644
First name: Bob
Last Name: Gramann
City: Fredericksburg
State: VA
Zip/Postal Code: 22408
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Professional
Michael, When I saw that rosette in your other thread, I thought that it was really neat. I started thinking a out ways to copy that theme in one of my rosettes. You should never have told us.



These users thanked the author bobgramann for the post: Michaeldc (Wed Oct 12, 2022 2:04 pm)
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 1:13 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2010 9:59 pm
Posts: 3558
First name: Dennis
Last Name: Kincheloe
City: Kansas City
State: MO
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
Michaeldc wrote:
When in doubt, feature it!

I made the headstock an 1/8” too narrow - The tuners touched, so I offset them - the client loves it! Oh, and +1 for Rubners!

This rosette went in 180° out - The fretboard wasn’t gonna cover it, so I made a little shell dot to hide the f-up…

Screwing up is learning!

M

That rosette looks better than if it had been done "right" :) I like the headstock too, though if done intentionally I would offset the slot endpoints to match. It would look especially nice with fan frets. I'll have to try that sometime...

The fingerboard end treatment is also very nice. Is that a CNC routed slot with 3 pieces of veneer carefully mitered and glued into it?



These users thanked the author DennisK for the post: Michaeldc (Wed Oct 12, 2022 2:09 pm)
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 1:53 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jul 27, 2009 7:52 am
Posts: 4524
First name: Big
Last Name: Jim
State: Deep in the heart of Bluegrass
Country: usa
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
DennisK wrote:
Michaeldc wrote:
When in doubt, feature it!

I made the headstock an 1/8” too narrow - The tuners touched, so I offset them - the client loves it! Oh, and +1 for Rubners!

This rosette went in 180° out - The fretboard wasn’t gonna cover it, so I made a little shell dot to hide the f-up…

Screwing up is learning!

M

That rosette looks better than if it had been done "right" :) I like the headstock too, though if done intentionally I would offset the slot endpoints to match. It would look especially nice with fan frets. I'll have to try that sometime...

The fingerboard end treatment is also very nice. Is that a CNC routed slot with 3 pieces of veneer carefully mitered and glued into it?



There are NO MISTAKES Only Design Enhancements laughing6-hehe

_________________
The Shallower the depth of the stream , The Louder the Babble !
The Taking Of Offense Is the Life Course Of The Stupid One !
Wanna Leave a Better Planet for our Kids? How about Working on BETTER KIDS for our Planet !
Forgiveness is the ability to accept an apology that you will probably NEVER GET
The truth will set you free , But FIRST, it will probably Piss you Off !
Creativity is allowing yourself to make Mistakes, Art is knowing which ones to Keep !
The Saddest thing anyone can do , is push a Loyal Person to the point that they Dont Care Anymore
Never met a STRONG person who had an EASY past !
http://wiksnwudwerks.blogspot.com/
http://www.facebook.com/groups/GatewayA ... rAssembly/



These users thanked the author WudWerkr for the post: Michaeldc (Wed Oct 12, 2022 2:13 pm)
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 2:05 pm 
Offline
Mahogany
Mahogany
User avatar

Joined: Mon Apr 18, 2022 7:55 am
Posts: 83
Location: Sweden
First name: Roger
Last Name: Häggström
City: Örnsköldsvik
Zip/Postal Code: 89136
Country: Sweden
Focus: Repair
Status: Professional
I have once glued a pyramid bridge with the saddle below the string pins. I have also made a 7 string pyramid bridge - and not for a Russian guitar. The first calamity was easy to fix, the 7 string pyramid bridge is still waiting for a Russian to enter the shop...

_________________
New will change the old,
turn to ashes or gold

http://www.gammelgura.se



These users thanked the author RogerHaggstrom for the post: Michaeldc (Wed Oct 12, 2022 2:14 pm)
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 2:08 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jun 22, 2014 1:45 pm
Posts: 1446
First name: Michael
Last Name: Colbert
City: Anacortes
State: WA
Focus: Build
bobgramann wrote:
Michael, When I saw that rosette in your other thread, I thought that it was really neat. I started thinking a out ways to copy that theme in one of my rosettes. You should never have told us.


I suppose I could’ve remained quiet about - not really my way, plus now I know how to add the detail if I want to. Not sure I would have tried it if necessity hadn’t required a solution.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 2:13 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jun 22, 2014 1:45 pm
Posts: 1446
First name: Michael
Last Name: Colbert
City: Anacortes
State: WA
Focus: Build
DennisK wrote:
Michaeldc wrote:
When in doubt, feature it!

I made the headstock an 1/8” too narrow - The tuners touched, so I offset them - the client loves it! Oh, and +1 for Rubners!

This rosette went in 180° out - The fretboard wasn’t gonna cover it, so I made a little shell dot to hide the f-up…

Screwing up is learning!

M

That rosette looks better than if it had been done "right" :) I like the headstock too, though if done intentionally I would offset the slot endpoints to match. It would look especially nice with fan frets. I'll have to try that sometime...

The fingerboard end treatment is also very nice. Is that a CNC routed slot with 3 pieces of veneer carefully mitered and glued into it?


Agreed! Offset slots would look really cool on a FF guitar! Yes, the fretboard purfling detail is done as you described.

Best, M


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 2:45 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Wed Oct 08, 2008 11:36 am
Posts: 7256
Location: Southeast US
City: Lenoir City
State: TN
Zip/Postal Code: 37772
Country: US
Focus: Repair
Michaeldc wrote:
bobgramann wrote:
Michael, When I saw that rosette in your other thread, I thought that it was really neat. I started thinking a out ways to copy that theme in one of my rosettes. You should never have told us.


I suppose I could’ve remained quiet about - not really my way, plus now I know how to add the detail if I want to. Not sure I would have tried it if necessity hadn’t required a solution.


How did you get the purfling around the dot or did it come that way?

_________________
Steve Smith
"Music is what feelings sound like"


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 3:27 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jun 22, 2014 1:45 pm
Posts: 1446
First name: Michael
Last Name: Colbert
City: Anacortes
State: WA
Focus: Build
SteveSmith wrote:
Michaeldc wrote:
bobgramann wrote:
Michael, When I saw that rosette in your other thread, I thought that it was really neat. I started thinking a out ways to copy that theme in one of my rosettes. You should never have told us.


I suppose I could’ve remained quiet about - not really my way, plus now I know how to add the detail if I want to. Not sure I would have tried it if necessity hadn’t required a solution.


How did you get the purfling around the dot or did it come that way?


It’s done on my cnc. I first cut the pocket where the mistake was, I cut rings from a small chunk of ebony, then cut a ring out of a piece of maple, and finally cut a piece of shell for the middle. I installed the pieces, flooded it with CA, and finally leveled it. Done.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 3:38 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Wed Oct 08, 2008 11:36 am
Posts: 7256
Location: Southeast US
City: Lenoir City
State: TN
Zip/Postal Code: 37772
Country: US
Focus: Repair
Thanks, the purfling makes it look 'on purpose' I think.

_________________
Steve Smith
"Music is what feelings sound like"



These users thanked the author SteveSmith for the post: Michaeldc (Wed Oct 12, 2022 3:41 pm)
Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 51 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 95 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
phpBB customization services by 2by2host.com