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| Author: | Hesh [ Fri May 12, 2023 4:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Some X-Brace History For Ya |
From our friends at my favorite guitar store where I buy a lot of my stuff Elderly Instruments in Lansing Michigan. Great video, a must for builders wanting to learn how we came to where we are today. https://youtu.be/S3yEXGv5EBs |
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| Author: | Hesh [ Fri May 12, 2023 4:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Some X-Brace History For Ya |
Also I never learned how to use the YouTube feature of this forum, likely over 40,000 posts by me so far and I couldn't ever figure this out.... If anyone wants to repost the video using the Youtube function and give us a toot how I would be very grateful... thanks 
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| Author: | DennisK [ Fri May 12, 2023 4:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Some X-Brace History For Ya |
Hesh wrote: Also I never learned how to use the YouTube feature of this forum, likely over 40,000 posts by me so far and I couldn't ever figure this out.... If anyone wants to repost the video using the Youtube function and give us a toot how I would be very grateful... thanks The trick is that it was never upgraded after the change to using https:// instead of http:// for most web sites. Also you need the proper youtube URL (not youtu.be). So in this case http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3yEXGv5EBs Then surround with [ youtube ] tags, and voila: |
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| Author: | Hesh [ Fri May 12, 2023 5:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Some X-Brace History For Ya |
Thanks Dennis I hope you are doing great. |
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| Author: | Alan Carruth [ Sun May 14, 2023 3:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Some X-Brace History For Ya |
Prior to Martin, makers of both 'Spanish' and 'English' guitars in England used X bracing. The 'English guittar' (note spelling) was actually a pear-shaped cittern, usually with ten metal strings variously arranged, and may have been introduced in England by German makers. A student of mine restored one several years ago that had been built in London around 1820, by Harley, and it has an X braced top. Makers in the Spanish style, the one we're used to, seem to have picked that up, and C. F. Martin may have seen one of those English instruments. There was an article about this in 'American Lutherie' some time back. Martin didn't invent X bracing, but he was smart enough to know a good thing when he saw it. |
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| Author: | Hesh [ Sun May 14, 2023 8:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Some X-Brace History For Ya |
Thanks Alan that's how I heard it too about who didn't invent X-bracing. John Hall has some great specific knowledge for this exact guitar and how it came to Martin. |
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| Author: | Clay S. [ Sun May 14, 2023 9:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Some X-Brace History For Ya |
Somewhere in my closet I have an early X braced guitar (possibly Schmidt and Maul?) that might give Martin a run for its money as an earliest X braced guitar. The X bracing is not typical to what we see today IRRC. It's a fancy little thing with a lot of inlay work on the top. |
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| Author: | Ken Nagy [ Fri May 19, 2023 5:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Some X-Brace History For Ya |
I found this great recording of an early X braced guitar. from 1853. You can see the mic placement. True to the era it has gut trebles, and rayon (not silk) basses https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sl7UTx558GY But I found another video that has some history behind the instrument that is interesting. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bT6M50tjwOI |
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