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Author: | SteveSmith [ Mon Dec 26, 2016 11:19 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: John's 2016 challenge build |
I guess if you get any smaller they'll be ukes Nice progress, it's getting closer to being a guitar |
Author: | SteveSmith [ Sun Jan 01, 2017 4:48 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: John's 2016 challenge build |
Wood is where you find it. I have pulled pieces out of the firewood pile to use for guitars and a fair amount of kindling comes from the shop to the firewood pile. I agree the brace right under the soundhole would look a bit strange. I would rather rearrange them or even use two narrower braces on either side then one right under the hole. |
Author: | Alex Kleon [ Mon Jan 02, 2017 9:42 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: John's 2016 challenge build |
Instead of 2x4's, check out 2x10 or 2x12. It is easier to find some vertical grain with the wider boards. Alex |
Author: | truckjohn [ Mon Jan 02, 2017 11:37 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: John's 2016 challenge build |
Hmmmm. Great idea! Now - I can go back to stashing more brace wood again if I go for 2x8's, 2x10's, and 2x12's... That would get around the self imposed "no more 2x4's" rule..... |
Author: | truckjohn [ Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:01 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: John's 2016 challenge build |
So.... Back is out of the deck and ready to carve. On to the rosette. This is a first for me. I am trying out the basic method in our friend Eric Schaefer's video posted here viewtopic.php?f=10146&t=48745 on the forum. I made up a 20 degree template - which is good for an 18 piece rosette. Then - I scrounged all over and found all this stuff: Hormigo from the back and sides African Mahogany Leopard wood Jatoba/Brazilian Cherry Dark fretboard wood (I think its IRW) And brown fretboard wood (I think it's Granadillo) So - I sawed out a bunch of triangles, cleaned them up and here we go. I also managed not to permanently super glue my fingers to either the rosette or the bench... So that is a win. Note to self next time.... Make all triangles the same height and width. For this time - I will try to put all the crazy under the fretboard. |
Author: | Ruby50 [ Tue Jan 03, 2017 7:00 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: John's 2016 challenge build |
You can get all of the wood you need out of a dumpster as cut offs at a new-home construction site. As has been said, go for the widest stuff you can find and the edges are usually vertical grain. If not, then the piece will be thick enough to turn on its end and get vertical the other way. This will be an interesting instrument Ed |
Author: | SteveSmith [ Thu Jan 05, 2017 7:12 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: John's 2016 challenge build |
Hey John, I tend to favor simpler and less busy rosettes so I like rosette #2. I couldn't make out pencil marks on your bracing on Tapatalk. Now that you show it in the photo it is so different than anything I've used I have no idea how it might or might not work. |
Author: | Alex Kleon [ Thu Jan 05, 2017 8:13 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: John's 2016 challenge build |
It's a bit difficult to judge the rosettes until they've been cut into a ring. The multi wood rosette might look much better when it's a 1/2" wide ring. Alex |
Author: | SteveSmith [ Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:55 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: John's 2016 challenge build |
Nice mod. Laminate trimmer is a huge improvement over the Dremmel. |
Author: | truckjohn [ Fri Jan 06, 2017 1:55 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: John's 2016 challenge build |
I have been using a home made circle jig for simple line rosettes. It's just a piece of lexan with a bunch of 1/8" holes drilled into it for the various rosette diameters, and I just use an appropriate router bit to create the groove of the width so want.... Unfortunately, it's not adjustable to sneak up on a rosette like this for a good fit. This build was the excuse I needed . |
Author: | SteveSmith [ Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:27 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: John's 2016 challenge build |
Yep, I like the leopard wood. |
Author: | SteveSmith [ Sat Jan 07, 2017 7:32 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: John's 2016 challenge build |
Nicely done, it looks good! |
Author: | J De Rocher [ Wed Jan 11, 2017 3:51 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: John's 2016 challenge build |
For some reason, I haven't received any notices about your thread since before the first of the year. You've been busy. I like how your rosette came out. It looks really good. I think for rosettes like other one to work well, if there are no dividers between the tiles, there needs to be distinct contrast in color, light/dark, and/or figuring between the tiles especially after the finish is on so they don't blend together when viewed from more than a few feet away. Here's an idea to have in the back of your mind if you get to this point again with a rosette in the future truckjohn wrote: If the tiles extend far enough in toward the center and the rosette tiles are thick enough, you can rout out a thin ring the size of the sound hole opening and inlay it to make sound hole binding that matches the rosette. Attachment: 003 rosette.jpg
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