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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 9:47 pm 
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lex_luthier wrote:
One downside to using fans is that over time they tend to telegraph through a light top. I wonder if that's part of why tone bars evolved to be what they are today.

douglas ingram wrote:
That probably has more to do with the amount of clamping pressure and how it effects the cellular structure of the wood. One has to pay attention to clamping "just enough".

I find this "print-through" more a function of the stiffness of the plate. So, for example, a fan brace aligned with the long grain of the top will print through much more than the same fan brace glued cross grain to the same top. A handy rule of thumb is to keep your braces at an angle of >15 degrees to the long grain direction, if you can, as this usually introduces enough extra stiffness to reduce the print-through by quite a lot. Not always possible of course, in which case wider, lower braces of the same stiffness help, if you can put up with the extra mass.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:36 am 
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I found Randy Muth's explanation of what he calls his XTC bracing system to be quite thought -provoking ...http://www.rsmuthguitars.com/XTC.php


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murrmac wrote:
I found Randy Muth's explanation of what he calls his XTC bracing system to be quite thought -provoking ...http://www.rsmuthguitars.com/XTC.php


Great link - thanks for that.

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With prepping for Sandy I wasn't able to make it to Woodstock this year but last year I got to hear a couple of Randy's guitars in person and I have to say I was very impressed with his small bodied (00-ish) guitar with the XTC bracing. It was easily one of the best I had hear in a long time.


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