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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:12 pm 
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I have already had three luthiers tell me that this is old growth. Two of them have quite a bit of experience! My issue with Allied is you can never see what you are actually getting until you buy it from them! Unless they would be willing to send pictures and I do not know as I have never bought anything from them.


I have never bought a piece of wood from Allied that I didn't see a picture of. I buy from their weekly newsletter only, but they usually have some nice sets posted.

Also, there is old growth and there is forest grown EIR. Here are a few of the sets I just happened to have pics of. These are, as I understand it, forest grown, vs plantation, but I can't prove it. I like 'em though.

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I have also bought some sets here from Lance, but they came from Allied, too. All nice.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:36 pm 
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Those are beautiful! Are those pictures he sent or are they somewhere on the website?


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:47 pm 
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Allied sends out a newsletter each week to those on their mailing list. They always have a bunch of sets. Often there are new EIR sets, not always though. It's worth being on the list, and a good way to buy from them with pictures, vs the website which does not have pics. Not sure if they would provide some if you needed them.

Here is a link to this weeks postings. You may have to be on the list to order from the newsletter pages. I don't know for sure. It's easy enough to get on it, just sign up. Also, this isn't the best representation of EIR I've seen. Looks like they are getting some new stuff in.
http://enews.alliedlutherie.com/go2.sht ... 9c4b83339/

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:56 pm 
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Filippo Morelli wrote:
You might call it being poked fun of ... that's conjecture on your part.


I have no problem being pointed to Allied I did not know that they had pictures of their sets. The comments I am talking about had nothing to do with providing information. And as for old growth and forest wood I prefer the look of it to the plantation grown wood.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 11:04 pm 
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I believe what he showed is forest grown and I can't tell if it is old growth or not. I know the company says it is forrest growth and I would believe it. That is the type of sets I am looking for though!

And Waddy thank you for the info! I had myself added to the email list.


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Jschlueter wrote:
......... I can't tell if it is old growth or not. I know the company says it is forrest growth and I would believe it. That is the type of sets I am looking for though!


That's what I think.Old growth, SHMOLD growth!

If it has the characteristics I'm looking for, who cares if it's from an old, new, or artificial forest!

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:00 am 
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I would prefer it to be plantation grown, all else being equal.


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What would the difference be in a harvestable tree in the forest, cut today versus 60/70 years ago?


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you guys are just making me want to buy more indian rosewood. not fair...

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you guys are just making me want to buy more indian rosewood. not fair...

same here!

Also I'd like to pint out that on the Allied Lutherie homepage there is a beautiful Macassar Ebony Bamburg right in the middle of the page. Slightly to the left it says "click here to personally select your sets". If you click this it brings up around 9 pages of around woods all with pictures.


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Just another comparison...here is a nice set from Domex Hardwoods. Nice tight grain, I would say it's forest grown. They are asking $175, a bit steep i think..

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:14 am 
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Thanks everyone for the advice and information. I apologize if I seemed to be a know-it-all in any of my comments because that was not my intention and I certainly have a lot to learn!


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175??!

Sorry, but that's daylight robbery. I have this set from Madinter (Spain), I believe it was their first grade (one below their top) which costs about 60 euros excluding VAT. So about 90 bucks with taxes and without shipping, dred set would be about 100 bucks with taxes sans shipping.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 5:33 pm 
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yes, that´s right Mattia, i too have some very nice AA EIRW from Madinter and it was dirt cheap. It was pretty wet when it got here, but that didn´t seem to be much of a problem.

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I'm with the Whisperer on this one. I've been on this forum for years and have never even heard of 'old growth' EI rosewood. That name makes it sound like someone's trying to make some extra money off of you.
With EIR, buy the set that looks good to your eye, no matter the grain count or what someone tells you about the colors. And if you're new to guitar building, maybe don't even buy the set that looks good. Buy the set that's cheapest. It's gonna give you a guitar with character, and it will sound the same as the expensive stuff.


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