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 Post subject: First Rosette....
PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 5:56 pm 
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I finally used my circle cutting jig to make my first rosette.

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Nothing too crazy but a great feeling of accomplishment.


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Beautiful!! [clap]
What wood is that?
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Mike Collins wrote:
Beautiful!! [clap]
What wood is that?
Mike


Claro Walnut...just a left over from the side.

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Brad my friend it looks perfect to me - excellent work!!! [:Y:] [clap] [clap] [clap] [clap]

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Brad;
What kind of circle cutting jig are you using?
For a Dremal,router ??
I thought it was Walnut -looks great!

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Looks like very precise work to me, and I would be extremely proud if I could accomplish such a thing. I love that narrow band of shell running through the wood. I think it's beautiful!
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Wow! Brad, for a first rosette, that's OUTSTANDING work!!!! [clap] [:Y:] [clap] [:Y:] [clap]

Are you sure you didn't "practice" on some others first?.....c'mon, fess up.... :D

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Very nice work Brad !! The five line inner & outer rings complement the abalone and claro perfectly. I'll be anxious to see the completed guitar. Keep up the good work!

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 Post subject: Re: First Rosette....
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Mike Collins wrote:
Brad;
What kind of circle cutting jig are you using?


I put this together a number of months back.

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Excellent work Brad. Looks like you got it perfect the first time. Are you sure this is the first one? [clap]

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Looks like very precise work to me, and I would be extremely proud if I could accomplish such a thing. I love that narrow band of shell running through the wood. I think it's beautiful!
Patrick


+1! It looks great!

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 Post subject: Re: First Rosette....
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Brad, that's beautiful work. I agree with the others, are you sure this is your first attempt? Those pieces fit perfectly. I love the abalone work you did.


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hi Brad
lovely work, I’m looking forward to seeing more of your work.
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That's fantastic. Do you know the breakdown purfling widths?


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 Post subject: Re: First Rosette....
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James Orr wrote:
That's fantastic. Do you know the breakdown purfling widths?


James...here is the sizes from outsite to inside...

b/w/b .030
b/w/b .030
Claro Walnut .150
b/w/b .030
Abalone .079
b/w/b .030
Claro Walnut .150
b/w/b .030
b/w/b .030

Much thanks goes to Todd Stock for this design. He had something similar on a guitar he build and I asked him for a picture for inspiration. He was kind enough to send me several photos that helped me figure it out.

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 Post subject: Re: First Rosette....
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Excellent execution Brad!
Very nice!

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You didnt say Brad .. but I figure you put the rosette in in stages .. ie, first, glue in the wood ring. then add the iner/outer rings, then the shell - this is how I teach my students to do it - its VERY tough to inlay something like this all in one go, without having a gap somewhere.

One of my students who hangs here just put the outer rings in his last night, with the teflon spacer for the shell - we will get that in in his next session. Its all looking tight - hey Rick -maybe post a couple pix that you took last night of the process ???

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 Post subject: Re: First Rosette....
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TonyKarol wrote:
You didnt say Brad .. but I figure you put the rosette in in stages .. ie, first, glue in the wood ring. then add the iner/outer rings, then the shell - this is how I teach my students to do it - its VERY tough to inlay something like this all in one go, without having a gap somewhere.

One of my students who hangs here just put the outer rings in his last night, with the teflon spacer for the shell - we will get that in in his next session. Its all looking tight - hey Rick -maybe post a couple pix that you took last night of the process ???


Tony...Here is how I put it together.

1) I inlayed wood ring with the (2) outer and (2) inner perflings and glued together all in one stage.
2) Routed to shell slot and inlayed the shell and perflings next to the shell.

Hard to say weather it was the easy or hard way. I just use a set of veneer calipers to make sure my sizes were good and everything fit together nicely.

Part of the reason I did it this way is because I didn't have a down spiral router bit smaller than .125" in diameter. idunno

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Ahah .. yes obvioulsyhaving a smaller bit makes a difference - you did very well then in your setup [clap]

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 Post subject: Re: First Rosette....
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Nice style, great choices, and enlayed perfectly.


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Nice work, Brad. Beautiful looking rosette.

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Top drawer, Brad! Solid... very solid.

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When the Teach says 'jump' ... :D
Following up on Tony's prompt here are some pics I snapped of the rosette I'm working on under Tony's watchful tutelage (I'm having a blast btw!). Excuse the poor quality of the photos - photo journalism isn't my day job!

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Thanks Rick,

everyone should note that we did a cheap and dirty LV bottled french polish wipe before the CA flood. We also brushed some into the channels before dry fitting the lines and teflon in there.

next up we will run this thru the thickness sander and bring it down just to flush - wash it with FP again, then pull up the teflon and fit the shell, flood with CA.

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TonyKarol wrote:
Ahah .. yes obvioulsyhaving a smaller bit makes a difference - you did very well then in your setup [clap]

This made me wonder, does anyone have a source for router bits smaller than 1/8th inch? I'd like one in 1/32nd.


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