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 Post subject: timbermate grainfiller
PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 5:42 am 
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I've searched here on the OLF for some info on this filler and come up with nothing.
Has anybody used it with good results? I have used Zpoxy on the last four guitars and would like to try something else.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 6:55 pm 
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I don't know anything about timbermate, but this post will get your question back on top. Maybe someone will see it now that's used timbermate.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 7:32 pm 
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It's originally an Aussie product. A few folks at ANZLF have used it with mixed reviews but mostly positive. You might want to do a search on their forum and read what they have to say (though limited). Looks like a pretty decent product to me but I've not tried it.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 7:43 pm 
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We have a product called Timber Mate here in Australia, not sure if it's the same product though. The stuff I have used is water based, easy to apply if first thinned with water, fills reliably, stays in the grain, and sanding is a breeze. The label looks like this:

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If you are going to try this product, I would recommend filling as required, sanding back, but not too far as you want the filler still above the pores for now and then leaving it to dry right out, (at least a couple of weeks in warm dry area would be best) then sand back to wood just before applying your finish. This is necessary to avoid the sink back you can get with water based fillers. I used this product on a resto around 12 month ago and no sink back as yet but you do need to sand it properly to get the colour out of the wood or it will look muddy, the catch 22 is that there is quite a fine line between not sanded enough, and sanded too much so it has re-exposed the pores.

Like any thing to do with the finishing process, the best advice is to pick what is best for you and preserver with it because they all work properly, when you do.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 6:16 pm 
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I use it and think it's great, I don't use anything else any more.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 7:29 pm 
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thanks for the answers from everyone..... But Paul, could you tell me why you wouldn't use anything else and your process on using it? From what i have read on the net it has good comments!....I didn't get to many comments here so I'm kinda skeptical of trying it.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 3:49 am 
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I use it because on a warm day it's dry in about 10 minutes, you can sand a body in about the same time, and if you don't like it, you can remove it all with a damp cloth. What's not to like?

I just scoop some out (it's about as thick as window putty) water it down so it's about the consistency of ketchup and slather it on with an old credit card. Wait til it's dry and sand away the excess.


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PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2010 5:54 am 
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Paul,
Do you use a washcoat of shellac before applying timbermate?


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PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2010 6:12 pm 
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No, I just put on the bare wood.


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