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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:10 am 
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As I have mentioned, I am dealing with short-term memory loss. It may be worse, because I seem to be forgetting stuff I have known-done over a period of years. I am looking for a video tutorial series that totally covers building steel string acoustics with the outside mold. This would be something I could view to "refresh my recollection"(as we trial lawyers say). I just realized how maybe more things are dropping off the quick retrieval files in my head. I do have John Hall's YT vids as a playlist and subscribed.

Just so you friends know how bad this is, I have built maybe 6 acoustics in fits and starts over 39 years. Only one complete used an outside mold- otherwise it was Sloane-ish). I have my Steinert neck and block, I have my bent sides in my slope-dread mold, clamped but no dedicated spreaders made yet. My neck block is 4 1/16th" tall. I was planning on 4 3/4"+ at the tailblock but about 4 3/8th"+ at the neck join. I can't even remember how I got my ribs close to ultimate size for installing the blocks and then adding the linings and then sanding to profile with my dishes. I can see some of the steps in my mind but can't get them "ordered."

I'm embarrassed and kind of frightened- but less so here than I would be anywhere else. So, what set should I purchase?Thanks.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 2:16 pm 
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Mike,

I use the outside mold method on both my classical and steel string guitars and show this in my DVD's and videos.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 3:13 pm 
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Thanks, Robbie- I believe I have your DVD. I will try to find it. I recall that you frequently refer to a "finger" as a "high-tech" glue spreader.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 4:21 pm 
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:29 pm 
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Thanks, John. I'll see if I missed gathering your videos. Thought I had playlisted them all. But, the memory thing.... :? In my mind's eye I can see myself cutting the overlaps of the ribs away-- then positioning my heel and tail blocks, to fix my perimeter. Where I am lost is that I don't remember myself gluing and clamping those blocks hanging "in the air" centered at the midpoint of the height of my raw sides-but I can recall using my favorite LN LA block plane to trim the sides before putting on the linings and then "bus driving" on a jig/workboard I made with a 1/2" partially threaded bolt vertical axle. I just draw a blank.

I will note- the two responses I have gotten so far are from video producers--THAT IS A COMPLIMENT GENTS- John has always freely shared and Robbie's productions(I bought two or three; I'm still looking for them but a memory problem enhances "lost" status in my little two BR bungalow.) were well received by me when I watched them. So, I am a happy customer of both men-bought videos from Robbie and materials from John- gotten phone advice from John and if I had Robbie's phone number I am certain that he would supplement his video productions with 1:1 advice. Good men, both.


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Mike,

Have you given any thought to taking photos of the end of each step? I find that the photos I take to document builds for customers are a great memory jogger, and pausing to take them keeps me from getting ahead of myself.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:52 pm 
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Pat-I believe that would be very helpful. I was very satisfied with the body of the guitar I did with a mold- I had a blended approach. Made a workboard with soundhole pivot point of hardened steel bushing for drillbits-held my pin for my trimmer rosette jig. Then, there was the outline of the OM body drawn on it- I then lined up my mold with that drawn outline. I fastened the mold to the workboard with threaded inserts and holes in the perimeter of the mold for 1/4-20 bolts. Sounds complicated but it is not-I rigged up a block in the thoeretical center of the body and that had the radius dish "axle" sticking up out of it.

A Eureka moment-found Robbie's Steel String DVD. I may be saved.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:14 pm 
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Mike, sounds like you're about my age. If I don't build pretty much every day it's a matter of memory, not so much technique. I'm thinking of an inside mold instead of my mostly normal outside mold. Pictures along the way might have helped.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:37 pm 
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Thank you Mike for the compliment. Keep that high tech glue spreading device in top shape, use it often.


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