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 Post subject: Soundboard choice
PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:00 pm 
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Hai I need help to choice for Accoustic soundboard...
the back and side I choose Mahogany also neck, what about soundboard?? I have engelmann spruce and Western Red Cedar..
thank's... idunno


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 Post subject: Re: Soundboard choice
PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:24 pm 
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Depends on what you like. Both are acceptable.

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 Post subject: Re: Soundboard choice
PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:49 pm 
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What are you building? Steelstring, dread, OM, ?? classical?


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 Post subject: Re: Soundboard choice
PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 10:19 am 
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Corky, I'll build steel string, like L-OO or OM or Martin O size with some modifications;
rather long neck, narrow body depth maybe 2.5" to 3" with electric, what you think??


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 Post subject: Re: Soundboard choice
PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:07 am 
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Harry,

That's pretty narrow - why so narrow? My guess is you'll lose some base with a body that narrow - but maybe that's your intention. Anyway, Englemann and WRC can both be used for that type of guitar, but you'll have a different sound for sure. Ultimately it's up to your own preference.

Of course every piece of wood is different, but assuming that both tops are "average" whatever that means, the WRC will open up much sooner than the Englemann. It's softer too, almost certainly, so it will dent more easily. As for sound quality - I'm sure I'm opening a can of worms on this, but at least to my ears, the WRC-topped guitars have had a "brighter, more strident" tone, a bit less complex, if you were to describe them in negative terms, I'd call it almost a metallic ring to it.

With Englemann, it's a spruce, and will likely bring more of a traditional sound to the guitar.

Finally, the WRC takes a dent very easily - you'll want to be very careful if you build with it.


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 Post subject: Re: Soundboard choice
PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:48 am 
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okay thank's Corky, it's open new horizon to me... bliss


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 Post subject: Re: Soundboard choice
PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:18 am 
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Don't mean to high jack the thread. But how do you guys think and addy wenge dread would sound?


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 Post subject: Re: Soundboard choice
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George Lowden has found a modicum of success mating cedar tops to mahogany backs and sides.

Me, I'm curious about a recent spate of examples of cedar-topped flamencos (blancas with cypress back and sides).

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 Post subject: Re: Soundboard choice
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If I had only two tops to choose from and was building a 0 or 00 size guitar, I would choose the top that was less stiff along the grain. For an OM or bigger I would choose the top that was stiffer.

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 Post subject: Re: Soundboard choice
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I would choice the top based on the basic sound you're looking for. Do you want the crisp sound that spruce offers or the warm sound the cedar offers. Both combinations will make nice sounding guitars if you know how to use them...

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