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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:14 am 
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While I'm watching Olympics, I'm getting ready to finish number 5 with cardinal lacquer. I did not get the sealer and just plan on using a one pound cut of shellac. Would I be better using a few thin coats of lacquer?

In the nice California sun, I'll probably shoot 5 - 6 coats on day one and the same on day two (or when I get around to leveling).

What advice could you offer. This is my first experience shooting lacquer. My last was with general finishes waterborne pre-ca. Decent results, but wont use it again. There was a blueish tint I wasn't thrilled with.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:45 pm 
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I would suggest you use the recommended sealer. Shellac at one time was a viable sealer with lacquer but modern finishes are different. years ago I used shellac as a sealer. It wasn't until I had some adhesion issues that were related to the shellac that I found out too late about finish chemistry.
Granted many may do this and have success but the issues show later in the finish life. For that reason I would say use the sealer that the finish manufacturer recommend.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 2:17 pm 
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If you don't know how the material will react with shellac and you don't have the recommended sealer, then the safest thing might be to self seal using the lacquer.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 4:48 pm 
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If you are not planning on using the manufacturers sealer I would suggest using a 50/50 mix lacquer/thinner as a washcoat. Do a few coats to seal then pore fill , top coat , etc. I have not used the Cardinal yet , but this worked very well for me with the old McFadden's nitro. Best of luck.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:34 am 
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Doesn't Cardinal lacquer have plasticizers added to make a flexible finish? Is Cardinal just the latest "great white hope" for instrument makers?


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