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I just completed a small jumbo.Thanks to Micheal Payne.I wish he was still around here.This was the second Sj for me.I really like the sound these put out.So I was thinking how about a 12 fret SJ. Will it push the bridge too far back ?Maybe getting to deep into the lower bout and create too much bass.Any thoughts or similar builds out there?

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James W Bolan
Nashville Tennessee

James,

I wish he were around too. Miss a lot of the old timers. How about some pics of your SJ?

I don't think you'll have a problem with excessive bass with the new position of the bridge. I'd say go for it.

Pat

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Todd I`d like to see that shot of the bracing.My son took some pics today .I`ll post them in a week or so when he posts them

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James W Bolan
Nashville Tennessee

I used my SJ pattern as the platform for a 12-fret 12 string a few years ago that's a cannon. Two of my students built their own versions, and they're pretty good too, although maybe not as loud. Go for it.

Alan, you mean not as loud as the 12 string you built or a regular 14 fret SJ.It seems like the 12 fretters I`ve built are more powerful than the 14s in other body shapes.I though maybe because of the bridge sitting farther back on the lower bout.

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James W Bolan
Nashville Tennessee

James,

This would be our take on a medium jumbo 12 fret neck with 24.9" scale...... hope this helps.

Blessings,

Kevin

You may want to take a look at some old Gibson L-0's from the late 20's. The jumbo shape was originally used for 12 fret guitars after all.

I made a 12 fret full sized jumbo not long ago. Starting with the basic SJ200 shape, I added a bit to the upper bout - 1/2" or so IIRC - and moved the bridge down for rest of the distance. IMO this makes the outline a little more graceful and closer to the original jumbo shape.

I won't comment on the absurdity of such terms as "Small Jumbo".

I'm pretty sure he meant ours were not quite as loud as his. The one he built is an absolute cannon! Ours are slightly smaller cannons. Here's mine:

http://www.luthiersforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10101&t=38686&p=507925#p507925

IIRC, Alan's was Indian rosewood while the other student's was osage orange. I don't remember what they used for tops but know both were spruce of some type.

Matt

Thanks for the pic Todd.Matt that`s a beauty.You could use one of Mario`s tortoloid pic guards.They are the nicest I`ve seen.

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James W Bolan
Nashville Tennessee