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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 10:05 pm 
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I am having a friend bring one of my guitars to the US, but it has abalone, so can he get in trouble if caught?

What are the legal ways to bring it over?

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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2013 11:13 am 
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As long as you know the genealogy of the mollusk in question, you should be fine.

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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2013 8:33 pm 
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pat macaluso wrote:
As long as you know the genealogy of the mollusk in question, you should be fine.


Hahahahahaha!!!!!

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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2013 9:18 pm 
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Can't I just make it up? How are they're going to prove that I was wrong?

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DNA! :D

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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2013 9:24 pm 
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They're going to DNA check some shell pieces just over a lacey act violation? That would be over the top...

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You're having your leg pulled.

I don't think Lacey applies to shell, that's US Fish and Wildlife.

As for your guitar, if it's his personal property (it is, right?) you should be fine. Lacey really only applies to commercial shipments.

Before proceeding on that, you'd be we'll served to wait for a second opinion from someone who knows for certain.

Anyone?


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Tai, it may be time to check the batteries in your sarcasm detector. . .

I wish I had an answer for you. Hopefully someone will come along and second what Meddlingfool said.

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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 1:53 pm 
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I'm sorry... I am very bad at picking up sarcasm. It's not just a broken battery, but more like a missing unit.

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Why don't you email US F&W to be sure? I found them to be quite helpful when trying to negotiate the Lacy Act minefield.

The Lacey Act most certainly does apply to shell. As I understand it from the emails I received from US F&W, if the guitar is a commercial transaction then the importer will need to get an import permit and fill out all the Lacey Act paperwork. If it is personal (i.e. not commercial) then no permit is required. So long as the guitar contains no CITES listed materials it should be fine if carried as personal luggage. There is a legal definition of commercial, but you need to be a lawer to understand it properly. Suffice to say that if money changes hands it could be considered to be commercial.


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