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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:54 am 
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Here is the latest Luthier Tips du Jour video -The topic is filling gaps under fret ends where they meet the fretboard.
This video as well as all my other videos are available via my website http://www.obrienguitars.com/videos/, LMI's website or on Youtube.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:36 am 
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Great video! This is exactly how I do this job.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 1:22 pm 
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I really appreciate you taking the time to make these videos, thank you!


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:44 pm 
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Thank you Mike and Twick. Glad you are enjoying the videos.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 9:44 pm 
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This only works if you fret before finishing. It will not work if you are fretting after finishing, or if you are refretting an existing guitar. I use fretboard bindings to avoid the possibility of having to fill gaps.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:22 am 
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Filippo, If you don't mind me asking, what's a faux bind fret board?

I also finish before fretting and haven't found a good way to fill the fret tang gaps.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 11:22 am 
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I guess it means a fretboard bound with the same wood as the fretboard, so it appears as though it has no binding.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 11:48 am 
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I think it's cutting the slots short of the edge of the board, thus hiding the fret ends. Fret tang ends are then cut shorter than the slot, leaving room for shrinking of the Ebony. Slots are cut with a router bit or a milling bit.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 12:14 pm 
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Found this. Looks like thin pieces of wood are glued to the sides of the fret board after the fret slots are cut.

viewtopic.php?f=10133&t=37224&p=491779&hilit=faux+bind#p491779

I'll try this next time for sure. Thanks Todd/Filippo

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 2:07 pm 
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Filippo Morelli wrote:

But that said I much prefer and only faux bind fretboards these days.

Filippo



Filippo: I'm in the same boat with you. A bit more work but I like the ends covered with wood. That said, Robbie's method works very nicely for those who want to go that route.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:03 pm 
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a good practical reason for filling in (or covering)these kerf gaps is: over time the gaps will collect sweat and grimy paste, which can lead to corrosion of the fret tang and even rot of the fretboard wood. i didn't notice it mentioned in the video or comments so i thought it worthy of pointing out- probably obvious to most though....
i have a couple of old guitars with original frets, and the tangs appear to be dissolved back a few mm from the fret board edge at the most trafficked positions


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