Official Luthiers Forum!

Owned and operated by Lance Kragenbrink
It is currently Thu Aug 07, 2025 2:18 pm


All times are UTC - 5 hours


Forum rules


Be nice, no cussin and enjoy!




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 13 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:16 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member

Joined: Sun May 19, 2013 10:22 am
Posts: 727
First name: Brian
Last Name: McDonald
City: Okanagan Centre
State: British Columbia
Zip/Postal Code: V4V2H6
Country: Canada
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
Started a new one this week, going to be a little experimental for me at least.
Here is as far as I have got on the rosette.

I will chisel out the crescents on the top and replace them with pieces from the other two woods


You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

_________________
My memory is so good, sometimes I remember things that never happened.


Last edited by Bri on Sun Mar 15, 2015 12:56 pm, edited 1 time in total.


These users thanked the author Bri for the post: pdolan (Fri Mar 13, 2015 9:28 am)
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 8:34 am 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood

Joined: Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:15 pm
Posts: 7548
First name: Ed
Last Name: Bond
City: Nanaimo
Country: Canada
Focus: Build
Status: Professional
So far so good!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 8:38 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:42 am
Posts: 1135
Location: Hudson, MA
First name: Kevin
Last Name: Quine
City: Hudson
State: MA
Country: Usa
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
Pretty cool. You'll have lots of fun fitting the crescents in there later.
Hope you'll post some photos of the finished rosette


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 12:01 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa

Joined: Mon Jun 30, 2008 1:06 am
Posts: 508
First name: Greg
Last Name: B
City: Los Angeles
State: California
Looking good so far. That should be nice when it's done. :D

I suppose that there is a choice to be made in how they meet. Going through with the purflings on only one side of the intersections would make a rope/knot pattern.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 11:59 am 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Sat Dec 30, 2006 3:20 am
Posts: 2593
Location: Powell River BC Canada
First name: Danny
Last Name: Vincent
That should look very cool Brian. Looking forward to seeing the end result.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 12:53 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member

Joined: Sun May 19, 2013 10:22 am
Posts: 727
First name: Brian
Last Name: McDonald
City: Okanagan Centre
State: British Columbia
Zip/Postal Code: V4V2H6
Country: Canada
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
Finished up this morning. Came out OK. I think it looked better on the concept sketch, execution was only 90%, learned a few things, had fun and I am using this on this build, warts and all.

B


You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

_________________
My memory is so good, sometimes I remember things that never happened.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 3:48 pm 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood

Joined: Tue Nov 29, 2005 11:44 am
Posts: 2186
Location: Newark, DE
First name: Jim
Last Name: Kirby
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
It's a nice effort! I think the previous comment about continuing the purfling lines around so that it ends up looking like a continuous loop was really correct (and which I would gladly steal if I were to pursue this myself). I think the alternate wood inlays in the interior regions between the rings need to be rethought somehow - to me they distract from the visual interest of the overlapping rings. It may be that, if the previous advice were applied, then the ring structure would be so unified that the second comment wouldn't have come up.

You pursued a lot of work that will be hidden under the fretboard to completion - use of time and material??

Keep it up - it's much more ambitious than anything I've tried.

_________________
Jim Kirby
kirby@udel.edu


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 4:19 pm 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood

Joined: Fri Apr 02, 2010 10:35 pm
Posts: 2561
Country: USA
Focus: Repair
Status: Professional
I like the design, it just looks disproportionately huge on the guitar shape. Just my opinion.

_________________
Old growth, shmold growth!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 6:02 pm 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:12 pm
Posts: 6994
First name: Mike
Last Name: O'Melia
City: Huntsville
State: Alabama
Focus: Build
Status: Semi-pro
I think if u scaled it by 30%, it would look more finessed. Thinner shell lines. Same wood all the way. Then, use a small washer to trace an even thickness line on the inside (do while shell etc is still above the surface), then sand back to lines. Instead a round sound hole, it will be a rounded triangle sound hole. 2 cents. :)

Another idea would be to pack it all inside of two concentric rings


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 7:55 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member

Joined: Sun Feb 17, 2013 4:58 pm
Posts: 1449
First name: Ed
Last Name: Minch
City: Chestertown
State: MD
Zip/Postal Code: 21620
Country: United States
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
If the shell line were much thinner - say in black - I think the size and color and general look of what you have might look better.

Thanks for the visuals and the toot

Ed


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 8:57 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member

Joined: Sun May 19, 2013 10:22 am
Posts: 727
First name: Brian
Last Name: McDonald
City: Okanagan Centre
State: British Columbia
Zip/Postal Code: V4V2H6
Country: Canada
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
Yea, it feels too bulky to me. I should have used the thinner shell, but like I said I learned. The problem is that the way I assembled this it needed to be glued as I progressed. Each piece provided the position for the next piece, so once into it, it was tough to turn around, and since this is a nice top I will be using it.
Nice thought Mike, I may yet change the hole shape.

Stay tuned because I will be experimenting with a few other methods.
For example, the heel block be exposed so that no veneer is needed where the wedge or graft would normally go. I rabbetted the block so it is flush with the sides.

B

_________________
My memory is so good, sometimes I remember things that never happened.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 11:50 am 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:12 pm
Posts: 6994
First name: Mike
Last Name: O'Melia
City: Huntsville
State: Alabama
Focus: Build
Status: Semi-pro
I don't think it is too bulky, just a little bulky. But, if you sand the hole to match the triangle, then your (my) eye might not be drawn to that part of the design and stay more on the pattern. Its a symmetry thing I think. I do like your idea and plan on using a version of it. :)


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 2:48 pm 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 12, 2009 12:12 pm
Posts: 3308
First name: Bryan
Last Name: Bear
City: St. Louis
State: Mo
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
It might be easier to excavate the whole area with the router, rough fit the crescent shapes then go back and re-rout the channels for the shell. This will define the shapes of the crescents and the shell will just slip down in rather than having to fit all those wood pieces.

_________________
Bryan Bear PMoMC

Take care of your feet, and your feet will take care of you.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 13 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Ken Lewis and 12 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
phpBB customization services by 2by2host.com